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Why Thieves Keep stealing Holden Commodores.

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A lot of good journalism for not a lot of information...
If the car complies with it's relative ADR then what would you expect GM to do???
The real issue is with the theft, the police and the justice system...
 

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GM could easily re-write the code and change the access parameters to make it harder for people to steal these cars and then have owners come in for a simple system update. If after market companies can manage to do it surely GM can.
 

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A lot of good journalism for not a lot of information...
If the car complies with it's relative ADR then what would you expect GM to do???
The real issue is with the theft, the police and the justice system...
I can’t help but feel if it had the potential to hurt future car sales (ie: still selling new holdens) they would patch out the exploit with an update.
 

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I can’t help but feel if it had the potential to hurt future car sales (ie: still selling new holdens) they would patch out the exploit with an update.
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Our courts are weak as piss most of our judges dont know what a woman is how do you think they are going to punish a car theif ? Its been this way most of this century you all must like it as nothing is changing get used to it. Import some more people and enjoy it when you stuff is stolen and f*cked up.
 
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I can’t help but feel if it had the potential to hurt future car sales (ie: still selling new holdens) they would patch out the exploit with an update.
They'd have engineered it out, just like ford did back on the 80s-90s, when you could unlock and start a falcon with the dipstick out of the auto, for EA they came up with a totally different key profile and the 'Smartlock' system.

Not that anyone wanted to steal an E series falcon...
 

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I can’t help but feel if it had the potential to hurt future car sales (ie: still selling new holdens) they would patch out the exploit with an update.
It’s not just Holdens suffering this type of theft shitfuckery. It’s a common issue for many other manufacturer’s brands including many GM brands within the states. And they’ve got ongoing sales to protect…

Despite vehicle security being part of the design rules, and the utter failure of the system to secure the vehicle meaning it’s not fit for purpose, manufacturers don’t see an issue and no regulator anywhere in the world is doing anything… Business as usual…

And herein lies the problem. It’s all proprietary stuff even when built on open source software…

Companies no longer care to provide any software support whatsoever for those defective vehicles they sold into the market whether they’ve abandoned the market or not…

Yet manufacturers will always deflect with “nothing wrong”, “govco should regulate these devices” and if tha5 doesn’t work scream “proprietary” and “too costly” when pushed for repairs. The fact is they are just lazy gits that don’t care about the defective crap they’ve sold and there are no laws to make them care and regulators are captured.

If they won’t support the products themselves, they should be forced by law to open source their stuff so as a fallback the open source community could at least have a look and they’d probably do a better job fixing up the software deficiencies that these recalcitrant manufactures have no desire to address themselves…
 

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It’s not just Holdens suffering this type of theft shitfuckery. It’s a common issue for many other manufacturer’s brands including many GM brands within the states. And they’ve got ongoing sales to protect…

Despite vehicle security being part of the design rules, and the utter failure of the system to secure the vehicle meaning it’s not fit for purpose, manufacturers don’t see an issue and no regulator anywhere in the world is doing anything… Business as usual…

And herein lies the problem. It’s all proprietary stuff even when built on open source software…

Companies no longer care to provide any software support whatsoever for those defective vehicles they sold into the market whether they’ve abandoned the market or not…

Yet manufacturers will always deflect with “nothing wrong”, “govco should regulate these devices” and if tha5 doesn’t work scream “proprietary” and “too costly” when pushed for repairs. The fact is they are just lazy gits that don’t care about the defective crap they’ve sold and there are no laws to make them care and regulators are captured.

If they won’t support the products themselves, they should be forced by law to open source their stuff so as a fallback the open source community could at least have a look and they’d probably do a better job fixing up the software deficiencies that these recalcitrant manufactures have no desire to address themselves…

TLDR? Keyless cars with push button start isn’t a brilliant idea, unless you’re a car thief!
 

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TLDR? Keyless cars with push button start isn’t a brilliant idea, unless you’re a car thief!
It's a cost saving from the manufacturers sold as a modern convenience.
 
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