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Will ZB be the end of GM in Australia

Discussion in 'ZB Holden Commodore (2018)' started by vs-lover, Jun 14, 2018.

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  1. Sep 16, 2018 #401
    figjam

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  2. Sep 17, 2018 #402
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    Well, it's another well known model name gone, but it's been selling in a diminishing market segment.
    The Holden brains started the rot by marketing so many Daewoo models as Holdens and replacing well respected (and good) Euro models in the process. It's difficult to understand how Daewoo continued to create so many ordinary vehicles when Hyundai and Kia were working hard to improve the quality and engineering (and public image) of their cars at the same time. The Daewoo reputation never left and renaming the company GM Korea made no difference. Unfortunately for Holden, they have sold sub-standard smaller models for too long, against much better competitor's vehicles and I doubt they will ever make up that lost ground.
     
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  3. Sep 17, 2018 #403
    vs-lover

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    Good, another bucket gone !! The resale value of Barina's has been shocking for years. They are nothing more than a disposable method of cheap transport for tightarses that won't spend a dollar.

    The genuine Japanese Manufacturers like Nissan, Toyota and Mazda have had it all over these elcheapo Opel then Daewoo based units for years.

    Sometimes I wonder how GM are still afloat as they just keep making the same mistakes over and over again and you know what they call people like that ?
     
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  4. Sep 17, 2018 #404
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    Is it the Chevrolet that’s being axed ? and a casualty is the Barina possibly?
     
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    I think the Barina is the Chevrolet Aveo and as its an older design now, it's possibly reached the end of its production run anyway. If that's the case, Holden simply doesn't plan to replace it as it has the Astra sedan and hatch.
     
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  6. Sep 17, 2018 #406
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    Not surprised at the Barina finally going. I had one for a loan car a couple of years ago and found it awful to drive.
     
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  7. Oct 16, 2018 #407
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  8. Oct 16, 2018 #408
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    Well apart from being butt ugly it might be ok.
     
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  9. Oct 17, 2018 #409
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    If you read between all the technical gobble de gook lines they are basically saying the days of beer swilling Commodore sales are well and truly over with their main focus on New Age Social Media Snags (sensitive new age guys).

    As the fantastic documentary "Wild Open Road" states, ................. but at Bathurst they still don't give a F%@$
     
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  10. Oct 17, 2018 #410
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    And there lies the problem..... They have made their bed and now they have to sleep in it.....
     
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  11. Oct 17, 2018 #411
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    ... and in other news the second hand V8 market continues to not buy new commodores and the sky is blue.
     
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  12. Oct 17, 2018 #412
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  13. Oct 18, 2018 #413
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    I'll have to say that the second hand V8 market has gotten out of control with many people about to get their fingers burnt getting stuck with heaps of crap that aren't worth injecting cash into. Everything works in cycles and the V8 is currently having it's day in the sun atm.but it won't last forever.
     
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  14. Oct 18, 2018 #414
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    Quite,frankly V8’s are well by their use by date.You just do not need one for general use these day’s(Unless you want to tow,then you go & get a Landcruiser.)Engine technology is so good these days,especially in “4”s.Lot of very good sixes making good power out put out there as well.Cheers:):)
     
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  16. Oct 18, 2018 #416
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    Some people buy stuff because they want it, not because they need it.
     
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    who would have thought eh, lol

    no-one needs a giant Land Cruiser either (V8 mind you) but doesn't stop the sales.
     
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    V8s are slowly dying out in mainstream vehicles,that is a given,it is only a very small percentage of the market.Mustang has done quite well,but it is starting to flatten out as well.But it is really a niche market,Not a average vehicle that the average joe is going to purchase.Same for Camaro it is only a niche market.Better keep your RWD Commodore V8.Cheers:):)
     
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    A lot of those sales are rural sales,people who tow as well.Lets face it,it’s a Toyota as well,so of course it is going to sell.
     
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    rubbish i see them every day in Brisbane on my commute
     
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