Will ZB be the end of GM in Australia

GM are actually turning me off of buying anything from them and I've got a decent history of *Holden* owning.

The Ford 3.9 was weak. Generally I like the long 4 litre and the Tickford are strong.

 

I gotta wonder if Holden really don't care if the ZB and Commodore badge just fades away. I have seen one ad run for maybe a week before it was pulled.

 

The whole GM advertising program is weird. What exactly does the Arcadia ad show? Its great to arrive in? Stiff ****. What's the vehicle got? How does it look inside? How does it drive? Stupid ad. The Astra sedan is going cheap. Well, yes, as nobody has bought them, they have too many sitting unsold but registered, and GM looks like canning them. Equinox? Not sighted off Nobbys. Barina? Dead, ditto Spark, I think. What's left? A hundred or so VF2's, probably a few Captiva. And utes, or trucks which seems to be the flavour of the month. Have I missed anything?
Who was it from Holden who recently stated "This is the most exciting, best range of cars we've ever had. "? Get the doctor, quickly.

 

^^^... how many TV car ads make sense these days ? As they can't show them being driven (because it is dangerous to drive at any speed) they have to rely on what you do with them, how cool they look, and any other weird way to 'impress' a prospective buyer.
My favourite is the Colorado V the goat. Pleeeze explain that one.
Some car ads have been censored/ banned after only one complaint. Go, Harry Screwby.!!

 

Yeah, the goat. Crazy American Indian music and a bloke that bears a remarkable resemblance to the goat. Maybe a subliminal message there. Only a goat would buy this truck?

 

GOAT …. greatest of all time ? Yeah ….. nah.

 

That one really sh!ts me. Blatantly an American ad all the way to the Native American Indian backing track that they took from the people who they took Colorado from in the first place.
All American GM. Why not just tell us how many 'feet' and 'lbs' too ?

 

Colorado is an adjective to describe in Castellano (Spanish) some that is Red in colour. That was the name the Spaniards gave the region based on the Red colour of the Colorado river.

Anyway, was taken twice, one by Spain and the invasion from the Manifest Destiny movement.


I bought one and is a good truck, just a horrible commuter vehicle like any other truck.

 

I think they are mirror images with some cosmetic differences. Just like the VE/VF Pontiac/Chevy.

 

I think the Tickford engine was an option, rather than a standard fitament

 

You think the 3.9 was weak....Taxis got a 3.2...That was weak

 

What was the 3.9 and 3.2? Which Fords had them? Are we talking Cortina engines? I remember the Ford blue they were fairly reasonable and lasted a long time. I remember the 250 Xflow they were sorta ok. As for the 4L long motor they were a POS, until at least the Awfully Ugly came out.

 

The 3.2 and 3.9 SOHC were introduced with the release of the AU. The 3.2 was dropped, I think, with the intro of the AU2 due to poor sales. The 3.9 became the 4.0 when the BA (I think) came out. At the same time, it gained the new twin cam head. I'm not sure of all my facts, after all, this IS a Holden site.

 

Ok makes sense

 

I just checked and found my earlier post had the wrong intro models. The 3.2 and 3.9 started with the EA, not the AU. The 3.9 became the 4.0 in the EF so yes, you would have had a 4.0 in 96 but only a SOHC.

 

4.0 litre come out in EB 11

 

OK. Thanks for the correction. Falcons never held any appeal for me. I was trying to recall from memory.

 

Will like to share this video. He is pretty much spot on. Funny to say, some of my good memories were with some Fords. My neighbor taught me how to work on cars with a 68 Camaro SS, he traded for a 72 Ford Maverick (the US Falcon replacement), however, he ordered with a 302 V8, very unique, very fast. His son, got a 76 in the 80s, blew the stock 302 motor, got a 69 302 Boss, nice bad ass sleeper. My dad bought a 74 with a straight 6, a lemon, traded for a 75 Chevy Monte Carlo, very reliable, very dependable. Also, (my neighbor) traded the 72 Maverick for a 4 Banger 76 Mustang II. We clocked that POS to 26 secs a 0 to 100 Km, horrible car, based on the Pinto platform. The slowest I ever rode as of today.



Anyway, this video about the Maverick and how Ford killed the car to save the Mustang.

GM worries too much about shares and seems to have Monkies working on their departments. Expect some stupid decisions based on Spread Sheets and Skewed Market Analysis. We can debate all day long, at the end, if you want GM, you have to eat what they offer you like it or not.