try ur local wreckers for them. i got a set for my vl sedan to use as bonnet struts (bloody good idea ) and all i did was get the struts from the wreckers, bought the ball joint brand new from autopro ($3 each) and i took the joint thig for the other end from under the bonnet of a vs. the bit that connects the strut to the guard all up, it cost me $6 for the ball joints