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3.7 or 3.9 diff gears??

Jesterarts

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Hey, just wondering if i should get 3.7 or 3.9 dif gears...

I've been umming and arghing about them for abit..

What i want to know is.

Atm i get about 600km a tank, how far would i go with the 3.7 and the 3.9's?

Does anyone have them?

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not really much point with them for a stock v6
 

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I think theres lots of point... :)

Quicker of the line at the sacrifise of top speed.... Im not planning on going 220 anytime soon but kick of the line is fun...!

Also it makes for a .4 second quicker 1/4 mile...
 

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Im running 3.9's in mine. Obviously completely different power output(possibly double yours:p) but it saves me having a ridiculous stall. On the highway is pretty bad though.

As for .4 of a second difference on the 1/4, unlikely. What you gain on the bottom you lose up top.
 

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Why do u say its bad on highway? revving too high??

I had a chat to a mechanic who does all bolt-on and mods n what not and he said that with an auto a 3.9 is pretty bad caus the top gear still has u reving really really high...

He said its better in a manual car and in particular ones with 6 speed...

I got the 5 speed an he seems to think it will do the job in mine

CHeers for the input guys
 

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i've been wanting to put 3.7's in mine for a while now to see how it will go, problem is i got no idea how much they cost to buy and have fitted can someone help me out here please, also where/who does the conversion? can any mech do it or is there a special place you need to go?

cheers all

atm it revs at 1950 @100km/h and 2050 @110km/h, what do you think it would sit at when i've put 3.7's in or 3.9?
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jesterarts/calais_304.
I've just completed a complete V6 engine, auto gearbox and diff rebuild to LSD.
The insight i can give with this experience is.....diff gears will give instant noticeable bang for your bucks.
On a completely stock car, including stock exhaust, the change of diff gears will most likely give more realistic increase in performance than say "cosmetic mods" like CAI, lifters, or even exhausts for that matter.
I was undecided for months of which gears to go 3.45 or 3.7.
I wanted to go 3.7 but decided to go 3.45 for a few reasons, my cam (crow cam stg 2) is not big enough to get the most out of the 3.7 gears, there was no 3.7 gears available when i was looking and since i do a fair bit of highway driving 3.45 is better with economy.
But a set of 3.45 was available for cheap from a mate, so 3.45 was decided.
Apparently, 3.45 and 3.9 are quite readily available but not 3.7, a set of new 3.7 i was quoted was around $600-$700.
I was quoted with everything new for $1800, diff gears, LSD and labour but it did not include speedo recalibration - being an independent diff, labour is more.
My diff just cost me $1175 - me supplying 3.45 gears $150, labour and new LSD supplied by the diff specialist $800 and an off-the-shelf speedo recalibration box $225.
It is better to go to a specialised diff mechanic, the general mechanic most like sends your diff to these guys anyway.
What i have just written is from the experience of research and talking to these specialists and i'm very happy with the instant increase in performance around town.
I have not taken it on the freeway yet to let you know what revs it does at 100 kays, the speedo correction box is not yet wired and at the moment it is about 10kays out - speedo says 70-72 but actually only doing 60.

As stock at 3.08 diff gears, it used to do 100 at 1750 revs, the autos have a very tall final drive which gives excellent fuel economy on highways.
I expect it to be around 2000 rpm, which will still be very good.
If you got a manual, in my opinion 3.45 will be ideal.

But, the best advice i can give you is shop around, talk to your mechanics and the diff specialists.
 

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Wicked! Thanks, thats heaps of info!!

Yeah, i been looking around on ebay for the diff gears and an LSD...

I can pick up an LSD with about 10,000 for 200-300 and the diff gears for about 300-400...

Yeah, pretty much my only concern is how much distance per tank i will loose in my 5spd Manual...

I figured i should compare the the fuel consumtion @ 2100rpm and 2500rpm...
I got the fuel per hour in 5th @ 2100rpm @ 100kmph = approx 9.5
THen i got fuel per hour in 4th @ 2500rpm @ 100kmph = approx 11.5

I got the ratio between the two which is about 1.2 : 1

I then divided the distance i get now 600km by 1.2 = 500km

I really hope im an wrong in working out the distance i would get caus i really don't wanna loose 100km per tank!!!

totq!

How much km did u used to travel before and how far do u go now per tank?
 

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I have a 'couple'
here is a calculator that a friend wrote (thanks Chem),

You might find it useful to work out your new cruising speed, or speed in each gear.

you will need to enter your current gear ratio's though.
 

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Wicked!! You rock, thanx!
 
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