JC Political Thread - For All Things Political Part 2

[shane_3800]

He‘s literally telling you what actually occurred in his circumstance!

In my circumstance I still have an amicable relationship with my ex and I have regular visitation with my son (also talk to him on Skype most days).

I pay child support outside of the shitfuckery of the government system as we both determined that getting the government involved just makes life more difficult for both of us.

Top tip here is not to try and make a big deal out of things and try to score points all the time on the other party, otherwise your ex is going to get the shits and drag you through the system!

I‘d fully expect that if you were in that situation you’d be dragged to court quick smart because you can’t help but try to score points with illogical arguments and have an attitude of “what’s in it for me“ and ”it’s my way or the highway”.

I find it funny how there are always these attacks against me, "if you were" "i bet you" "you would" come on guys play the game not the player.
As soon as you guys can't win an argument it becomes a personal attack against me.

 

[Immortality]

Because it in societies best interests. That's why.

 

[shane_3800]

Do what you please, it's just a commercial holiday really.



That's right, you do but you do realise that society needs people to have babies? without renewing the population society would die.

Fairly basic economics really, you need a birth rate high enough to sustain the population (we are going to ignore immigration for this simple lesson). If you don't have enough births you end up with a ageing population which is something a lot of countries are already grappling with. Japan been the prime example and something China is also struggling with because of their previous 1 child policy and the large imbalance they have between the male and female population.



First time in many years we didn't buy large amounts but the missus did get a few from work yesterday and I'm only eating a few small ones. Watching my sugar intake these days.

Yes but people are still allowed to have babies, but maybe the people that have babies should consider if they can actually look after them without leeching off others.

 

[shane_3800]

Because it in societies best interests. That's why.

Oh so society can take money off me against my best interests and hand to others in society to lift them above me.
So it's in the interest of some of society over the interests of others in society.

 

[Immortality]

Oh so society can take money off me against my best interests and hand to others in society to lift them above me.
So it's in the interest of some of society over the interests of others in society.

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[shane_3800]

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You're still yet to explain why other people should have to pay for those that want a life style choice of having a kid.
I can guarantee you 99% of women aren't having kids to better society, they're having kids for their own reasons, and how is it not selfish to want a career and be a boss girl, and then have kids and expect other people to fork out for their lifestyle choices.
And you think it's all about me lol.

 

[AirStrike]

Also I like how you call me lonely, because I choose to be single how exactly does that make me lonely? Maybe that is an irrational fear of people who are in relationships.
I choose to be single as 50% of all marriages fail, 70% of which are initiated by the female, and 80% of females retain majority custody of the children, and men have to pay child support in that case. So basically women can start a no fault divorce, and the man is helpless and gets shafted.

There is one way to avoid this and that is to avoid cohabitation, but that doesn't mean that you're lonely, loneliness is all about how the individual perceives their situation. But it is far easier for women to become lonely, as they're social by nature, whereas men can be wanderers, or lone wolves as the saying goes, as the male wolves will leave the pack but the female wolves will stay.

Your divorce rates are not for Australia, so I’m going to assume all the rest of the quoted figures are from American social media like the 50% rate.

 

[AirStrike]

I get your point.
But lets look at it like this.
Tax payers pay for schools, they pay for family benefit, these two things have been happening for quite some time.
Now this current government wants to increase parental leave and pay the companies with tax payer money to support this.
They also want to give parents more money for child care.

The last two really annoy me because it is all about women wanting it all, they want to have a career and kids at the same time, so instead of making that choice, the government wants to redirect that money from hospitals and police to let women have both.

It’s not about women wanting it all.
Please show me how an average single income can support a family home?

Personally I don’t agree with having a family you can’t afford, but it’s not about women chasing a career and family majority of the time.

 

[Immortality]

You're still yet to explain why other people should have to pay for those that want a life style choice of having a kid.
I can guarantee you 99% of women aren't having kids to better society, they're having kids for their own reasons, and how is it not selfish to want a career and be a boss girl, and then have kids and expect other people to fork out for their lifestyle choices.
And you think it's all about me lol.

It's human nature to procreate, the survival of the species depends upon it.

So yes, most of your answers stem from the question "but what about poor old me?"

If you don't like society then leave and go somewhere you don't have to contribute.

If you don't like how the system works, run for office and change it.

But I can guarantee that your opinions on these matters puts you squarely in a very small minority so I suggest you go back to my first suggestion, leave to go to somewhere you don't have to contribute.

Maybe, just maybe, if all those big international corporates contributed their fair share to the cost of running society less of the burden will fall on the poor suffering tax payer (yes you)!

 

[J_D 2.0]

I find it funny how there are always these attacks against me, "if you were" "i bet you" "you would" come on guys play the game not the player.
As soon as you guys can't win an argument it becomes a personal attack against me.

Oh so society can take money off me against my best interests and hand to others in society to lift them above me.
So it's in the interest of some of society over the interests of others in society.

Proving my point for me, how nice of you!

If your having a bitch about a few tax dollars going to parents then your going to bitch about your hypothetical ex missus “taking money off you” for your child, or bitching about what she’s spending it on, or bitching about how much visitation you do or don’t get.

A leopard doesn’t change its spots and if your bitching about “me, me, me” now they you would absolutely do it in a hypothetical separation scenario.