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JC Political Thread - For All Things Political Part 2

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And again, all I see is,

me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me
me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me meme me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me!

Yep that is exactly what I see, women that the world is just as above.
 

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But if a women wants to leave me why should I fund her to go off and bang other dudes?

Your not, your paying to take care of your child. Again proving my exact point you keep saying is a “personal attack“.
 

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If they want to walk that path, go for it be a boss girl, but I shouldn't be expected to pay for their child care needs.

So you’re completely ignoring the fact that most women have to work now, just like men do, to get by.

There has only been one big winner from the current paradigm and I’ll give you a hint, it’s not women. Companies now get twice the labour for roughly half the price as two incomes are now required to raise a family when one used to be enough.
 

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Your not, your paying to take care of your child. Again proving my exact point you keep saying is a “personal attack“.

Well in many cases, the money isn't going to the child, not in all cases but in many.
Why should the man pay any money though, if the child needs financial support and the mother can't provide it then the child should be with the man.
 

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So you’re completely ignoring the fact that most women have to work now, just like men do, to get by.

There has only been one big winner from the current paradigm and I’ll give you a hint, it’s not women. Companies now get twice the labour for roughly half the price as two incomes are now required to raise a family when one used to be enough.

Exactly. you're just proving my point.
 

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Exactly. you're just proving my point.

How is that me proving your point? You’re making it out like all women just need to make the personal choice not to work and say home to look after the kids so you don’t have to subsidise their childcare.

In most families that would result in them living in a tent, because one income doesn’t support a household unless your husband happens to be a CEO or something.
 

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I hear Gloriavale calling Shane's name....
 

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Well in many cases, the money isn't going to the child, not in all cases but in many.

Sometimes you have to trust that people will do the right thing. You don’t get to arbitrarily chuck a tanty and not pay anything, unless of course you definitely do want to end up in court so the whole arrangement becomes compulsory and the government treats you like a deadbeat dad.

Why should the man pay any money though, if the child needs financial support and the mother can't provide it then the child should be with the man.

A lot of the time the court will make that judgement if the mother isn’t of sufficient means to take care of the children. Both parties should pay to take care of their children and if only one party has the children then the other party is paying.

Also a lot of the time the father can’t take permanent custody of the children due to work commitments. That was my position with my son, I couldn’t just quit work to take care of him 24/7 so he stayed with his mother.
 

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