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ABS wheel speed sensors

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Good to hear that it's all soughted :) Also some interesting info to remember if I ever run into a simalar problem ;)
 

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Just as an afterthought, when I almost had to buy a new ABS bearing hub ($410), the girl at the GMH agents said she had heard that it was possible to change the bearing alone which would cost a fraction of a new hub. My noise proved to be faulty brake pads.
 
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Folks,

As promised, I tried to pull apart the old ABS hub today just to see if it can be done and if so, we can all change bearings rather than spend so much money.

I started by grinding down the outside of a cheap 1 -1/16" (one and 1/16")socket so that it fits into the VERY thin clearance around the main bolt. This is a high tensile bolt which has been riveted onto the hub at the other end. Once the socket fitted, I put the hub into a vice with aluminium jaw plates so the stud threads were not damaged. I wasn't going to risk breaking a ratchet socket, therefore a normal length socket bar was used. It was too short to make the bolt move. I then reached for a 1m long steel tube. This worked straight away but I would suggest you use a high quality socket bar as the cheapies will bend before the bolt loosens. Once the bolt was released, it was quite a job getting the bolt off due to the riveting on the front. But can be done with little time.

Now the bolt was off. There's a magnetic ring type spacer under the bolt and it is now loose.

Not knowing how it fitted, I tried to get the sensor ring off. This is the only plastic item and has the integral electrical socket. It looked like it's press fitted so I took a couple of sharp wood chisels and pushed them at right angles into the sides of the black sensor wheel plastic, enough to grab hold of the ring while I prised them to to force the ring up. This worked straight away and the only damage to the ring are the almost un-noticable chisel cuts. I guess the trick here is not to cut through the plastic. Once the sensor ring was off, the magnet wheel can be taken out and under this is a sealed wheel bearing.

Next I tried to separate the two remaining pieces using two very large screwdrivers between the disks. Didn't work.

I have a cheap bearing puller that I used to try to separate the pieces by using the large central bolt. Short of destroying the bearing puller, I gave up. I think a hydraulic press would be much better at this stage, set up to separate the pieces.

So there's my attempt and, while not too successful, it did reveal a few things:

- The sensor ring can be changed. If you have a hub with crook bearing, chances are that the sensor will still be good. This means you could get any hub from the wreckers (with good bearing) and change over the sensor if the number of teeth doesn't match. You would NOT need to remove the large bolt either as the sensor ring is not retained by it.
- Once the main bolt and sensor rings are removed, you need a hydraulic press to continue to get the hub apart.

If I get the chance, I'll take the rest to a workshop to get it pressed. Perhaps I could try heating the whole thing up in the oven for a while. I'll do it in the kitchen oven while the Missus is shopping though.

More soon.
 
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This sounds really good nothappyjan....nothing ventured, nothing gained. Regards Denis
 
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Thanks to all your good words and wisdom, nothappyjan, mixin. I to went through the same problem with my VS accliam S2 . Yes you can swap the sensors on the to hubs.
In the end I shopped around and replaced both front hubs $295 each. I'm a F&T , so I pulled the hub apart on the press at work, I found were it had failed . There is a bolt, if look in the front of the hub , the end of this is crimped. If you inspect the back end of the hub were the sensor is , there is the head of the bolt . If you can rotate the washer under the head of the bolt the bearing hub assembly is stuffed . The reason the hub fales is over a period of time aproximately 150K the bolt stretches and allows the outer race on the inside side of the hub to spin under load.
 

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i have just changed my wheel hub over on my vs statesman which has abs and irs with a hub that has the grey coding i put it all together and went for a test drive and the brakes pulled to one side for a while and then the abs off light came on i dont understand what the problem could be can anyone help???
 

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are you saying you have replaced a grey for a grey?
 

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The reason I asked is that I have a grey unit for sale.
I got caught when I bought it a few weeks ago not knowing about the grey/black options.
My hubs are black ie ABS non IRS and had the trouble with ABS light came on ie ABS OFF
and yep felt it in the braking.
I don't suppose LH and RH hubs can be swapped otherwise you might have a faulty ABS sensor or connection.
Good Luck
 
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