JC Political Thread - For All Things Political Part 2

[commodore665]

While I can respect your views on gun laws Skydrol , how would you react it to me as a South African , trying to defend apartheid ( abhorrent as it was) to the folks on this forum .

 

[Calaber]

Nope... because someone plowed a croud with a Truck does not mean that all Truck Drivers are evil.

By the way... I dare anybody to go around the street toting a gun like a cowboy in the US and see what happens.

Skydrol

You would possibly be surprised at the amount of coverage given in Australia to foreign incidents. It is far more comprehensive than the US where domestic affairs seem to predominate. We've seen the film clips of the Las Vegas shooting ad nauseum.

The point you seem to miss is that these mass killings are almost synonymous with the US. The news the other night indicated that 11,679 people had died through gunshots in the US in the last year. Responsible gun owners may well be safe custodians of weapons but the Las Vegas shooter had 23 weapons in his room. Whether he was responsible or not, how could he possess so many weapons? And why do so many feel the need to have multiple weapons in their homes?

Our news also indicated that, contrary to your statement about existing gun controls over there, some states, and Nevada is one, have very lax controls and buying military-style weapons is quite easy.

Americans arm themselves because of old fashioned fears about poor governance and the possibility of anarchy. Well, funny thing is, we enjoy a quality of life here very similar to yours. We have the poor governance. We don't have the gun culture, we don't have anarchy and while we might despise our government, we don't fear it.

Every argument put up by gun owners in the US about the need for defence against anarchists or invaders is rubbish. Sporting shooters and farmers are the only people who have justification for owning weapons.

 

[Nitro_X]

It is my only one I have no other accounts,

No worries, I'll take your word for it..
I've since noticed that everyone's message count is stuck on some random number....yours just happened to be stuck on '1'...There's probably a logical explanation for this.
Apologies if I hassled you for no reason.


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[Zeke Topanaga]

Zeke.....I know my fingers are typing this message in vain, you really need to get your head out of the Bible
More than 2,017 years of history shows that religious ideology has past its use-by date...
Open your eyes and take a look around at the real world...

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Oh boy how wrong you are bro, we are heading down into the worst path of the worlds history ever, it's on the path that's going to make Hitler look like nothing.
The most disgusting generation the world has ever seen is now at hand, just how many kids are just brats fatherless and a mum who is a slut, drug fu-ked idiots everywhere. Just look at how many people who try to rip you off, they are every were and shameless, greed driven beyond belief, kids out of control in schools who know no discipline or respect because of social brainwashed programmes created by socialist good for nothings.
Police are disrespected by young twerps and PC trendy's that think they are above a police officer that is giving them a direction.
A Police and the ADF system that is being controlled by Political Correct moronic totally foolish nonsense.

Yes I do get around bro and 43 years dealing with people in my line of work I am a contractor, so reality sure does hit you in the face bro any more than that situation I am not a wage earner living in a bubble dreaming BS and I do happen to understand the Bible as well because i have studied it not to mention I know what Jesus was truly on about.
Do you think that I don't know how ignorant people think, why would a person who has no understanding of the Bible come out and claim to know better hey ? sounds like the so called mechanic that does not understand even what a spark plug is to me is claiming the high road.
Sounds like a deranged PC generation concept to me where they look at Islam and say we better not say anything against this lot, but the Christians they run down every chance they get and then there is this idolising of Jews nowadays where it's tabo to question anything on the subject and the PC dolt will go into a spin of rage right. why is this ?
Why is the perceptions of the new age PC so deranged that they support every 3rd rate low life concept and reject values of virtue of our forefathers past that built up nations to what they were, only to have a fat lazy morbid deranged PC generation .
I have no faith in humanism because that is Satanism, man will never fix any problem because he is the problem and the Holy Spirit points this out.
If you don't have a handle on Sin your fu-ked your not going anywhere but backwards .
Socialism has always been a failure, even Putin pointed this out saying that any 4th grade student should know this is a fact.

 

[commodore665]

Having faced the pointy end of a high powered weapon while serving in the South African police , and using one to avoid others and my self being killed, my views on guns and gun control are to keep in the hands of the military and trained police , the laws towards hunters and the like need to be tightened up significantly, in NZ the process in gaining a firearms license is very involved, with several interviews, with the applicant , and their families , both carried out in private , plus strict rules in the storage of weopons and ammunition.

 

[Zeke Topanaga]

LOL very wide of the mark there

No, I'm treasurer of the local ALP branch, and member of NSW ALP Left faction (but only because I mix more socially with the Left folk, if anything - ideologically I'm more towards the centre). I'm a dirty satanic Zionist NWO Communist Nazi. I identify as gay as well. In my spare time I fly a cropduster that does chemtrails.

*awaits response*

I thought you were out of the ALP and jumped ship to the next likely winner to get a head.
I knew you were a PC Socialist for sure but did not know that you were a Satanist or a Nazi, a Communist for sure but as to NWO that maybe so, Zionist well I don't think you have the brain power for that and as for dirty well that's up to you.

I thought much highly of you before and thought you were a ok type of fella that I could get on with shearing an passion with cars, I have mates that are extreme lefty's and also extreme right ones but I am central and Nationalistic, Christian.
I have a mate I know from 1983 that's a full on poofter now and am still a friend of his and he has cancer and all the other gay friends I knew are dead now.
The younger gen of gays are not like the ones I knew, the ones I knew were ok to talk too and they did not support the madness of what militants ones are now on about at all.
That mate from 1983 is not a lefty at all, he will not tolerate them at all, very moody all of the gays that I have come across.

 

[Zeke Topanaga]

Skydrol

You would possibly be surprised at the amount of coverage given in Australia to foreign incidents. It is far more comprehensive than the US where domestic affairs seem to predominate. We've seen the film clips of the Las Vegas shooting ad nauseum.

The point you seem to miss is that these mass killings are almost synonymous with the US. The news the other night indicated that 11,679 people had died through gunshots in the US in the last year. Responsible gun owners may well be safe custodians of weapons but the Las Vegas shooter had 23 weapons in his room. Whether he was responsible or not, how could he possess so many weapons? And why do so many feel the need to have multiple weapons in their homes?

Our news also indicated that, contrary to your statement about existing gun controls over there, some states, and Nevada is one, have very lax controls and buying military-style weapons is quite easy.

Americans arm themselves because of old fashioned fears about poor governance and the possibility of anarchy. Well, funny thing is, we enjoy a quality of life here very similar to yours. We have the poor governance. We don't have the gun culture, we don't have anarchy and while we might despise our government, we don't fear it.

Every argument put up by gun owners in the US about the need for defence against anarchists or invaders is rubbish. Sporting shooters and farmers are the only people who have justification for owning weapons.

Rubbish we had guns here in Australia everyone I knew had a gun or guns and drove around with them most of the time, I thought nothing of it back in them days, most had a gun behind the front or back door when you lived on the land.
Never thought for a second that someone would go out and shoot another person, unless the bastard was stealing from them, but it was used as a warning to f them off but if some bastard came after you family you would of been shot.

But nowadays people are degenerates, drug fu-ked morons are every were not to mention all the low life bastards that are running about, so gun laws had to come in, it makes no difference at all truly because any bastard can get a gun regardless if you really want one.
We had a prick out here with fully automatic not long ago firing on his property and cops were to scared to do jack about that f ing prick, because of all the PC BS.

 

[c2105026]

Skydrol

You would possibly be surprised at the amount of coverage given in Australia to foreign incidents. It is far more comprehensive than the US where domestic affairs seem to predominate. We've seen the film clips of the Las Vegas shooting ad nauseum.

The point you seem to miss is that these mass killings are almost synonymous with the US. The news the other night indicated that 11,679 people had died through gunshots in the US in the last year. Responsible gun owners may well be safe custodians of weapons but the Las Vegas shooter had 23 weapons in his room. Whether he was responsible or not, how could he possess so many weapons? And why do so many feel the need to have multiple weapons in their homes?

Our news also indicated that, contrary to your statement about existing gun controls over there, some states, and Nevada is one, have very lax controls and buying military-style weapons is quite easy.

Americans arm themselves because of old fashioned fears about poor governance and the possibility of anarchy. Well, funny thing is, we enjoy a quality of life here very similar to yours. We have the poor governance. We don't have the gun culture, we don't have anarchy and while we might despise our government, we don't fear it.

Every argument put up by gun owners in the US about the need for defence against anarchists or invaders is rubbish. Sporting shooters and farmers are the only people who have justification for owning weapons.

And veterinarians - my dad was a vet and up til I was the age of 3 we had guns in the house. As soon as he got an office job he sold them. That was like 1986, though...

I find it curious that after 9/11 USA went into meltdown - but 11000+ deaths a year from gun violence is apparently ok.

I thought you were out of the ALP and jumped ship to the next likely winner to get a head.
I knew you were a PC Socialist for sure but did not know that you were a Satanist or a Nazi, a Communist for sure but as to NWO that maybe so, Zionist well I don't think you have the brain power for that and as for dirty well that's up to you.

I thought much highly of you before and thought you were a ok type of fella that I could get on with shearing an passion with cars, I have mates that are extreme lefty's and also extreme right ones but I am central and Nationalistic, Christian.
I have a mate I know from 1983 that's a full on poofter now and am still a friend of his and he has cancer and all the other gay friends I knew are dead now.
The younger gen of gays are not like the ones I knew, the ones I knew were ok to talk too and they did not support the madness of what militants ones are now on about at all.
That mate from 1983 is not a lefty at all, he will not tolerate them at all, very moody all of the gays that I have come across.

Wow and he couldn’t spot the obvious sarcasm.

It is true that I am gay and I am a rank and file member of the ALP, but I certainly don’t support any facist movements and those on the far left (eg Greens or Socialist Alliance) again very wide of the mark. Zionism/NWO theories I don’t buy into, they are for the clinically insane.

 

[Zeke Topanaga]

And veterinarians - my dad was a vet and up til I was the age of 3 we had guns in the house. As soon as he got an office job he sold them. That was like 1986, though...

I find it curious that after 9/11 USA went into meltdown - but 11000+ deaths a year from gun violence is apparently ok.


Wow and he couldn’t spot the obvious sarcasm.

It is true that I am gay and I am a rank and file member of the ALP, but I certainly don’t support any facist movements and those on the far left (eg Greens or Socialist Alliance) again very wide of the mark. Zionism/NWO theories I don’t buy into, they are for the clinically insane.

Are well you are not that bad then good buddy, your learning, most people who are ALP snap out of it when they can see the bigger picture in retirement and see it's their tax money that's being pissed up against the wall on so much crap.

What I have seen is, sadly when the infliction of the old crap learnt from the average dipstick pommy type of ways, that is to get all of what ya can out of sitting on ya arse in a government job or for a big business and it's when just scamming your whole life actually comes to a end, then this type of bastard jumps in bed with the liberals and becomes a full on right winger.
I have seen it plenty of times were a full on ignorant lefty become full on right wing ignorant prick.
They are both the same only out for what they themselves can get and the rest they say is just BS to try make out they are a good wolf. remember little red riding hood.

 

[c2105026]

Are well you are not that bad then good buddy, your learning, most people who are ALP snap out of it when they can see the bigger picture in retirement and see it's their tax money that's being pissed up against the wall on so much crap.

What I have seen is, sadly when the infliction of the old crap learnt from the average dipstick pommy type of ways, that is to get all of what ya can out of sitting on ya arse in a government job or for a big business and it's when just scamming your whole life actually comes to a end, then this type of bastard jumps in bed with the liberals and becomes a full on right winger.
I have seen it plenty of times were a full on ignorant lefty become full on right wing ignorant prick.
They are both the same only out for what they themselves can get and the rest they say is just BS to try make out they are a good wolf. remember little red riding hood.

As it stands I am on a fairly high salary for my age group and pay a fair bit of tax. I have also been on Centrelink in the past when I’ve been between things. I’ve also been in roles where my clients have been predominantly on Centrelink, so I can appreciate the challenges that occur when life doesn’t go to plan, and you have minimal control over it. Provided people are fulfilling their obligations, I don’t mind welfare spending being what it is. I myself have needed it in the past, along with family members and friends. Sometimes a bit of empathy goes a long way.

I know many people in ALP who are retired or self employed. But please keep trying. Your last response was the most coherent to date.