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Suami

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Well, now that Holden is kaput , spare parts price strategy will be revised and parts for your home grown Holdens will become as expensive to buy as the Euros parts...

We’ve already seen it in Holden’s spare parts price creep over the last year (brake bolt prices is one example mentioned on the forum) and it will only get worse... It will be more so if a 3rd party buys the parts supply and support business...

Keeping Euros and Holdens will over time become cost comparable o_O
Well, now that Holden is kaput , spare parts price strategy will be revised and parts for your home grown Holdens will become as expensive to buy as the Euros parts...

We’ve already seen it in Holden’s spare parts price creep over the last year (brake bolt prices is one example mentioned on the forum) and it will only get worse... It will be more so if a 3rd party buys the parts supply and support business...

Keeping Euros and Holdens will over time become cost comparable o_O
You could be right; however manufacturers shift their priorities as soon as the economies creep in their manufacturing “host” country.
For example; in the Dental industry cheap prosthetics etc were mainly manufactured off shore in China for the Aus market but they have had to increase wages and so the cost of manufacturing goes up. Many Debtal Labs are now setting up in South America as the cost of production is low and so it goes....
As for price etc; (V6s would not have a clue; those shot box engines are made in god knows where and are pretty shitty at best) the V8s will still be available in the US as the “rev head community” is large enough to support it; you only have to watch Foxtel to see umpteen shows about rebuilds etc
Finally as for being equivalent in price for parts; well aside from the above those Euro companies have an arrogance with those vehicles and the spares that is “you are privileged to own one” ; and Asia from “some” of your high spec AMGs and the like they are made in South Africa; Brazil etc but yet you as a consumer of one of these over priced **** trains pay a premium for everything and then watch a $100000 purchase turn into a $30000 trade if your lucky....
One Mercedes salesman I met through family told me “selling a brand new merc is easy; it’s telling the customer that paid 80+ grand for the car 3 years ago that I won’t give him a cent over $20k on the trade”......
 

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Not going to debate road quality with you; same around the world....very poor. Apart from some Euro countries where their govts actually care...
Euros in Aus will and do suffer the same paint affliction you mentioned; (lead removal from paint has not seen a substitute to date that won’t deteriorate quicker over time)....
As for not buying a commy in ten years; your correct....but s.h.i.t it will be fun to watch all us rev heads driving the prices north as the next generation wishes Holden never closed....
Audi techtronic Transmissions wetting their pants at60k on the clock at a 10k fix price ? Beamers and Mercs with interior “wood” panels lifting away from the interior due to heat ? Not to mention the electrical issues they encounter and the wait from Germany for an answer; then the cost....the list goes on; you enjoy those Euros and the price tag attached to maintaining one...it’s all yours brother.

There are plenty of places worldwide to buy genuine Euro parts that ship to your door without paying through the arse and there is a huge aftermarket industry out there as well.

Australia is one country that is truly ripped off beyond belief when it comes to Mercedes, BMW and Audi and even more so for other higher end cars but they are global mass produced brands and there are many other means to source parts other than in Australia.

Mercedes-Benz supporting Mercedes-On-Line to allow a wholesaler to sell cheaper genuine parts worldwide is just one and that list goes on, then add in the aftermarket manufacturers and suppliers in the USA and Germany and the price of maintenance and repair drops dramatically.

I’ve owned a lot of Euros and my two current C63’s are cheaper to annually insure than my HSV because they are not seen by the insurance company as high risk hoon vehicles, both my current AMG’s are also at times cheaper or in the same ballpark to service than my HSV and would be even cheaper if I took them to a specialist mechanic and not the dealerships.

Start purchasing genuine HSV parts and seen how you pay through the nose.

On top of that and I may just be lucky but I’ve not had anywhere near the problems or recalls with my Euros compared to my Commodores.

Sometimes it’s better to play and learn than listen to someone who doesn’t own these cars push the same old silly dribble.

Sure they do take a huge hit here in depreciation but they do eventually level out and the collectable models have a collectable value far more widespread than that generated by most of the performance vehicles that only hold an interest for a small part of the population in a southern hemisphere backwater.

If you don't want to take a big depreciation hit then turn them over quickly or just store them in the shed and never sell them, that way you never be hit at all.

Euro’s don’t sell around the world in the numbers they do because they are crap and unaffordable, they have a bad rep with the ignorant in Australia because that is what has been pushed by fanboys to make them feel better about their own locally produced cars.

Cars are manufactured around the world, it’s not the country where a product is produced that determines it quality, it’s the quality controls the company puts in place.

You should have also mentioned many AMG’s are also still made in Germany as well as in the UK and USA.

All AMG engines are still partly hand assembled and fully made in the AMG plant in Affalterbach, Germany.

I don’t think you know much about Euros at all, just repeating what you’ve heard someone else say who also doesn’t know.

As I said in an earlier post I’ll still be buying them in years to come and I will still be loving the drama they produce when I put my foot to the pedal.

Anyone who knows me knows of my love of Holdens but those people also know I call a spade a spade and owning a Euro is good, real good brother.



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There are plenty of places worldwide to buy genuine Euro parts that ship to your door without paying through the arse and there is a huge aftermarket industry out there as well.

Australia is one country that is truly ripped off beyond belief when it comes to Mercedes, BMW and Audi and even more so for other higher end cars but they are global mass produced brands and there are many other means to source parts other than in Australia.

Mercedes-Benz supporting Mercedes-On-Line to allow a wholesaler to sell cheaper genuine parts worldwide is just one and that list goes on, then add in the aftermarket manufacturers and suppliers in the USA and Germany and the price of maintenance and repair drops dramatically.

I’ve owned a lot of Euros and my two current C63’s are cheaper to annually insure than my HSV because they are not seen by the insurance company as high risk hoon vehicles, both my current AMG’s are also at times cheaper or in the same ballpark to service than my HSV and would be even cheaper if I took them to a specialist mechanic and not the dealerships.

Start purchasing genuine HSV parts and seen how you pay through the nose.

On top of that and I may just be lucky but I’ve not had anywhere near the problems or recalls with my Euros compared to my Commodores.

Sometimes it’s better to play and learn than listen to someone who doesn’t own these cars push the same old silly dribble.

Sure they do take a huge hit here in depreciation but they do eventually level out and the collectable models have a collectable value far more widespread than that generated by most of the performance vehicles that only hold an interest for a small part of the population in a southern hemisphere backwater.

If you don't want to take a big depreciation hit then turn them over quickly or just store them in the shed and never sell them, that way you never be hit at all.

Euro’s don’t sell around the world in the numbers they do because they are crap and unaffordable, they have a bad rep with the ignorant in Australia because that is what has been pushed by fanboys to make them feel better about their own locally produced cars.

Cars are manufactured around the world, it’s not the country where a product is produced that determines it quality, it’s the quality controls the company puts in place.

You should have also mentioned many AMG’s are also still made in Germany as well as in the UK and USA.

All AMG engines are still partly hand assembled and fully made in the AMG plant in Affalterbach, Germany.

I don’t think you know much about Euros at all, just repeating what you’ve heard someone else say who also doesn’t know.

As I said in an earlier post I’ll still be buying them in years to come and I will still be loving the drama they produce when I put my foot to the pedal.

Anyone who knows me knows of my love of Holdens but those people also know I call a spade a spade and owning a Euro is good, real good brother.



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Not talking about HSVs; never have or will own one.
No dribble; owned an E320 heap of **** with a fuel regulator that was nothing but ongoing in the shut down and shut its pants areas...the 5 series Beamer snapped a timing belt 10k before due with a beautiful service history; not to mention the bullshit electrical issues it encountered....and a 5 series Beamer heap of ****....”some” and only some of the AMGs are still built in Germany as for anything else good luck and see what Brazil or South Africa produce....and when your pretty little fashion accessory does **** something major break out the big bucks brother....but you strike me as the type who gets off on paying so you can talk about it....keep paying brother keep on paying
 

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Bit of a thread dig here... but anyways.

LS3 grange, 80,000kms .. big lift cam
Tuner/builder has recommended 10w50,
I was going to go with 10/tenths 15w50
Penrite suggested the 10w40

After much reading.. can someone explain to me why anyone would run anything less than a 20wXX oil in Australia (well, maybe unless you live far down south) - I'm basically in Sydney on the coast, start work at 4am, and have never seen temps below 5degC

a 5w30 is rated for outside temps of -35degC to 30degC
a 20w50 is rated for outside temps of -15degC to 50degC

Isn't that how the SAE rating is calculated?



Anyways the internet has me worried about running a 10w/15w 50 so I'll prob wuss out and go for a 10w40
 

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all depends on oil temps and bearing clearances, i was using 10-60 for a while (boosted) but then tried 10-40 and it ran better less noise and bearings were fine once inspected, a lower number will flow through the bearings/lifters faster which can be better as the more flow u get thru the bearings the better cooling they also get, if u go thicker u will increase pressure a little as it dosnt flow thru as quick so u are essentially making it harder to flow oil thru the engine which if u have warn out bearings it can help as they will have slightly more gap increasing flow thru them, this is all to do with temps and bearing clearances tho so if they are stock keep around those unless ur tracking it and are going to see above 120c oil temps, see what your engine likes as just because its thicker dosnt mean it will be better, imo a 10-30 or 10-40 is good for non dod LS just make sure it has the best film strength as better film strength is what stops the wear not the thickness
 

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Castrol EDGE 5W-40 Engine Oil A3/B4 6L - 3421236
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I had a oil analysis done on a 5w30 oil used by the dealership after 7500km and it has sheared down to close to a 5w20 weight oil. They recommended using a 5w40 minimum which I either use that or a good 10w40.

Thread dig !

Do you remember by any chance what oil the dealer used ?
 

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Thread dig !

Do you remember by any chance what oil the dealer used ?
Well the oil that was on the invoice was Valvoline 5w30 dexos full synthetic, however the oil analyst had made comments that the additive package in the oil tested did not match their samples of that particular oil.

So for all I know the Holden dealer invoiced certain oils and uses cheaper oil in their cars. Was the last service I done at a dealer.
 

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Well the oil that was on the invoice was Valvoline 5w30 dexos full synthetic, however the oil analyst had made comments that the additive package in the oil tested did not match their samples of that particular oil.

So for all I know the Holden dealer invoiced certain oils and uses cheaper oil in their cars. Was the last service I done at a dealer.
I would not be suprised at all if it was not Valvoline. Which dealer was this ?
 
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