cheers mate. Ha went out lookin for a caramel wheel yesterday went to bunnings, auto 1, mitre 10, super cheap and a few paint shops and nothing, ( didnt realise i had to go to a auto paint shop) anyway i got these plastic scraper thingys from the paint shop they work really good and dont wreck your paint. I done one door in about 15 mins. and den using euclyptus oil wen it got really thin. gonna do more today. just gotta get some grease remover stuff where can ya buy that ... auto 1?