WAR is getting Close.

[Immortality]

The attack on the Iranian Embassy was an attack on Iranian soil.
I don't support the Iranian govt but I respect their right to reply and reply they did.
Netanyahoo may as well have sent missiles/drones directly to Tehran instead.

It surely is.

But we must not forget that Iran has been targetting Israel via it's proxies since before the Gaza conflict. Iran is involved in Syria because it gives it access to the Israeli border via the various groups it funds and it gives them direct access to supply those groups with weapons. Israel has been targetting those forces and weapons supplies.

This little spat with Iran is a great distraction from the murder of innocent civilians in Gazza, it's just what Netanyahu needs and he knows the US and other allies will back Israel in any conflict with Iran.

Israel achieved it's goal with minimal fallout. Iran's response was to blow up Israel/Tel-Aviv without a care, and to test it's defensive response. A lot more going on that's not being reported.

Many don't realise Iran's long term goal in the middle east- to turn the middle east into a staging ground for a holy war against the west.

I don't disagree with that, Iran wants to be the big bad wolf in the middle east. Sooner or later it will be a full blown war. Problem is geography, There is a huge distance between Israel and Iran and Syria is in no shape to wage war against anyone so only really Lebanon and Hezbollah and I doubt that helps Iran too much.

 

[J_D 2.0]

Israel achieved its goal with minimal fallout. Iran's response was to blow up Israel/Tel-Aviv without a care, and to test its nd defensive response.

And Iran achieved its goal of responding to Israel with minimal fallout. The strike by Iran was well telegraphed so a defensive response could be taken by Israel and its allies.

Iran had to provide a response and their response was measured and calculated to do no real damage to Israel but allow Iran to save face. Now Israel is talking about having to respond to Iran‘s response, purely so they can escalate tensions which has been Bibi’s goal the whole time.

 

[marty351]

And Iran achieved its goal of responding to Israel with minimal fallout. The strike by Iran was well telegraphed so a defensive response could be taken by Israel and its allies.

Iran had to provide a response and their response was measured and calculated to do no real damage to Israel but allow Iran to save face. Now Israel is talking about having to respond to Iran‘s response, purely so they can escalate tensions which has been Bibi’s goal the whole time.

Yes, appearing weak to your neighbours ends up with contemptuous results; look at the US. Continued attacks from Iran's proxies with either a weak response or none at all.

Meanwhile, Iran plodders ever closer to achieving their nuclear ambitions, and this is what the entire world should be more concerned about as Israel has been shítting itself for a long time now.

And America should be pushing for a regime change in Iran instead of trying to usurp a democratically elected government.

 

[Immortality]

Israel is nuclear armed. Iran having nukes does not materially change the battle field. To use nukes is to assure your own destruction. Even if Israel didn't finish the job, the US would.

Doesn't mean I want Iran with nukes but unless someone decided to go in and change the regime there is no way to stop it, just like North Korea. The only way to change a regime is to put boots on the ground and the US simply isn't going there with Iran, neither Biden or Trump would do it.

 

[J_D 2.0]

Yes, appearing weak to your neighbours ends up with contemptuous results; look at the US. Continued attacks from Iran's proxies with either a weak response or none at all.

The US does respond when its forces are attacked, they don’t just sit there twiddling their thumbs. They launched a number of strikes when their forces were attacked in Jordan.

Meanwhile, Iran plodders ever closer to achieving their nuclear ambitions, and this is what the entire world should be more concerned about as Israel has been shítting itself for a long time now.

The world wouldn’t end if Iran got nukes. It hasn’t ended even though North Korea has nukes.

Which I’ve always suspected China handed to them. How is it possible that North Korea made nukes before Iran did when the Iranian economy and technical expertise is objectively better than North Korea?

And America should be pushing for a regime change in Iran instead of trying to usurp a democratically elected government.

Didn’t end too well last time the US and other western allies meddled in support of the Shah’s dictatorship did it?

The west should stop casting stones while in a glass house. The US doesn’t exactly have the best record on regime change, they have installed far more compliant dictators in place of democratically elected governments than the reverse.

Maybe if the US and UK didn’t prop up their compliant dictator in Iran before 1979 there wouldn’t have been such a severe break from the west and Iran might be on amicable terms with the west now.

 

[marty351]

The US does respond when its forces are attacked, they don’t just sit there twiddling their thumbs. They launched a number of strikes when their forces were attacked in Jordan.



The world wouldn’t end if Iran got nukes. It hasn’t ended even though North Korea has nukes.

Which I’ve always suspected China handed to them. How is it possible that North Korea made nukes before Iran did when the Iranian economy and technical expertise is objectively better than North Korea?



Didn’t end too well last time the US and other western allies meddled in support of the Shah’s dictatorship did it?

The west should stop casting stones while in a glass house. The US doesn’t exactly have the best record on regime change, they have installed far more compliant dictators in place of democratically elected governments than the reverse.

Maybe if the US and UK didn’t prop up their compliant dictator in Iran before 1979 there wouldn’t have been such a severe break from the west and Iran might be on amicable terms with the west now.

Yep, the US have proven on many occasions that they have nfi how to do regime change in some countries, but is often thwarted from within or completely stuffed up by bureaucratic incompetence and lack of foresight.
Do you remember the student uprising? Wasted opportunity right there, and from what I've seen this current regime is too popular either.

 

[Immortality]

Nope, the current regime in Iran isn't to popular but they have brutality on their side and know how to use it.

 

[J_D 2.0]

Yep, the US have proven on many occasions that they have nfi how to do regime change in some countries, but is often thwarted from within or completely stuffed up by bureaucratic incompetence and lack of foresight.

It’s unfortunate especially in the case of Iran as only 40% of the country now identifies as Muslim so probably the majority would like a secular country rather than a theocratic one but of course the theocracy won’t willingly give up its power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularism_in_Iran

 

[Immortality]

Israel/Iran proxy war is alive and well....

Mapping Israel-Lebanon cross-border attacks

Israel and Hezbollah have exchanged 4,700 attacks in the past six months, displacing tens of thousands of people.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[AirStrike]

Time to start buying up some US defence company stocks.