Will Kia Stinger really flog an SS?

[duaned]

Whatevs, most men I know don’t need a booster.

Are you coming out of the closet with that statement Monstar?

 

[monstar]

Are you coming out of the closet with that statement Monstar?

YES! Poll closed man, Australia voted everything be out of the closet

 

[Forg]

Same thing, 2.7 through 3.8. Point is it is utter utter garbage NA even after six or seven years. I have been through half a dozen Tiburon for sale this past week.

Wat? Tiburon engine != current V6, that’s like saying an HFV6 is an Ecomoomang.

 

[monstar]

Wat? Tiburon engine != current V6, that’s like saying an HFV6 is an Ecomoomang.

No idea about your reference, all G6 engines, same heads, different bores, different states of tune.
Utter garbage.

 

[monty_vfssv]

I doubt you’d pick up half a second with the max-50-ish extra kW of a W375.
You’d be matching 430kW GTS’s at those times, wouldn’t you?
Also, manual for <5s 0-100 cars makes ‘em slower, dunnit?

Yeah your probably right actually.. maybe a couple of tenths quicker than stock. I forgot most w375 are just a generic tune. If you get everything right a manual will be quicker than auto. However an auto is more consistant.. and a stalled/tuned auto is another story.

The stingers awd variant has apparently done a 4.6sec 0-100. Has 510nm at 1300rpm. And limited to 269kmph. Not bad considering its utter garbage in NA form!

 

[monstar]

The stinger awd variant has apparently done a 4.6sec 0-100.

Geezus you are as bad as him, where did you pull that stat from please?

Has 510nm at 1300rpm.

Again, that figure is max tractive effort at peak, not possible to produce 510 Nm from 121.93 ci at 1300 RPM. The Mean Effective cylinder Pressure at that speed would need to be 665 psi, which is a ridiculous claim, 50% higher than a turbo diesel at 1300 RPM.
Take a look at the local dyno of the engine, torque is conveniently not shown, however the calculation for deriving horsepower from torque is known and simple.

Above is the result of several clinical WOT pulls overlaid, the X axis being RPM, see near 1300. The bandied torque of 510 Nm would show the dyno power curve crossing the Y axis at 70 kw.
75 kw incremental on the Y axis is easily traceable and shows a more realistic engine speed of 2600, a good result but twice as many RPM to the right as claimed. Sure that is actual versus claimed, tyres vs flywheel.
To get actual at the wheel we can use the other odd claim of 14% drivetrain loss (versus 27% in the SS), so discounting 70 kw by 14% gives us 60 rwkw @ 1300 RPM. See the graph above, the squiggly incomprehensible mess that is left of 2500 RPM and below 50 rwkw is omitted, as typical, for the sake of clean trend lines and chart for the pool room.

And limited to 269kmph. Not bad considering its utter garbage in NA form!

Commie is speed limited to 260 in wagon and 270 in sedan. Crazy Arab types in the Middle East show stock 6.0 clocking over 300.
Regarding G6 engine evolution, you really should drive one of them after say 200k km, there are none at 300k km. Compare to GM, Nissan and Mitsi, Hyundai G6 series truly are a disposable POS and sticking a blower up it’s jacksie ain’t gonna extend its worth.

 

[monty_vfssv]

Geezus you are as bad as him, where did you pull that stat from please?


Again, that figure is max tractive effort at peak, not possible to produce 510 Nm from 121.93 ci at 1300 RPM. The Mean Effective cylinder Pressure at that speed would need to be 665 psi, which is a ridiculous claim, 50% higher than a turbo diesel at 1300 RPM.
Take a look at the local dyno of the engine, torque is conveniently not shown, however the calculation for deriving horsepower from torque is known and simple.
View attachment 197542
Above is the result of several clinical WOT pulls overlaid, the X axis being RPM, see near 1300. The bandied torque of 510 Nm would show the dyno power curve crossing the Y axis at 70 kw.
75 kw incremental on the Y axis is easily traceable and shows a more realistic engine speed of 2600, a good result but twice as many RPM to the right as claimed. Sure that is actual versus claimed, tyres vs flywheel.
To get actual at the wheel we can use the other odd claim of 14% drivetrain loss (versus 27% in the SS), so discounting 70 kw by 14% gives us 60 rwkw @ 1300 RPM. See the graph above, the squiggly incomprehensible mess that is left of 2500 RPM and below 50 rwkw is omitted, as typical, for the sake of clean trend lines and chart for the pool room.

Commie is speed limited to 260 in wagon and 270 in sedan. Crazy Arab types in the Middle East show stock 6.0 clocking over 300.
Regarding G6 engine evolution, you really should drive one of them after say 200k km, there are none at 300k km. Compare to GM, Nissan and Mitsi, Hyundai G6 series truly are a disposable POS and sticking a blower up it’s jacksie ain’t gonna extend its worth.

Honestly i wouldnt have a clue if anything thats been posted about the stinger is true.. mind you there's been a guy on here say he tried giving it to a stinger and he had no chance in his vf2.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-kia-stinger-gt-test-review

This mob reckon a 4.4sec 0-60mph.. this is a US spec awd which i dont believe we get in aus. Maybe having less than 15% drivetrain loss is allowing these 0-100 times.

Has anyone taken a stinger for a test drive??

 

[Forg]

No idea about your reference, all G6 engines, same heads, different bores, different states of tune.

They introduced Tiburon in 1999. They started making the G6 series engine in 2006.

 

[monstar]

They introduced Tiburon in 1999. They started making the G6 series engine in 2006.

For the record I was meaning cars 12 years and newer. The shitty new ones!

 

[Forg]

Ah; I hadn’t heard of anyone having problems with the newer V6’s, just the old one like in the Tiburon and (*shudder*) the KIA Carnival.