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Yeah I would be annoyed to. I would be reporting them as dodgy to eBay as well if they are selling it as something it's not. I was under the assumption the onus is on the seller to right the wrong and pay for postage.
 

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I've been off working on one of my other project cars the past couple of weeks, so no updates for the Caprice for a little while.

However, I have scored some nice parts out of a written-off HSV VX Senator in South Australia this week, so I'm freighting them down here to Tasmania at the moment. A box should arrive around the 30th of March hopefully if all goes smoothly.

A few bits and pieces I believe I can restore and retrofit into the Caprice. Stay tuned. Pictures when my stuff arrives.
 

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^And just to add to that, now slight feeling of uncertainty that I may have been ripped off over the VX Senator bits, as yesterday I saw the same parts and same photos and parts descriptions back up for sale on the net again (!) Higher prices, but definitely my parts in the photos.

Even though the guy had said he has already posted them to me. So I messaged him asking for a tracking number, and he was cagey and didn't want to give me one.
Looked again today and all his ads are gone. No trace of him.

So may have done my money on the Senator parts. I wish people would stop pulling scams... Seriously can't trust anyone these days.

Have to wait and see if anything at all even shows up. F$%^&*ing frustrating.
 

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^And just to add to that, now slight feeling of uncertainty that I may have been ripped off over the VX Senator bits, as yesterday I saw the same parts and same photos and parts descriptions back up for sale on the net again (!) Higher prices, but definitely my parts in the photos.

Even though the guy had said he has already posted them to me. So I messaged him asking for a tracking number, and he was cagey and didn't want to give me one.
Looked again today and all his ads are gone. No trace of him.

So may have done my money on the Senator parts. I wish people would stop pulling scams... Seriously can't trust anyone these days.

Have to wait and see if anything at all even shows up. F$%^&*ing frustrating.

Ebay + Paypal?
 

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^Paypal, so there's the chance it will be covered, as long as Paypal decides to be "reasonable" about things and refund me if nothing shows up.



I'll tell you a story about something that happened to me in (I think) 2009 or 2010, can't remember exactly now :blah blah:

I had a 2001 BMW M5 sedan at the time. The front door seal rubbers (that go around the inner door jambs) needed replacing as they all fall apart on those model of V8 M5. I found a set of 2 front ones on Ebay for $150USD plus like $40 or $50USD shipping from the US. Bargain, considering what they cost here in Australia at the time.
So I pay the seller on Ebay $190ish USD and I wait for the door rubbers to arrive. He gives me a tracking number. All good so far.
Eventually, the package tracking number says its here and close to delivery. And then the next day there's a small envelope in my mailbox, with the same tracking number on it.... I stand there and wonder how the bloody $%^&* a pair of door seals magically fit into a small envelope. I open the envelope and there's a scrap of pad paper in there. It says "SUCKER" on it.

I went ballistic and contacted Ebay and Paypal, and explained what had happened. Paypal goes to investigate, to get me a refund. But the seller says he definitely sent the door seals, and here's the tracking number as proof....
Paypal comes back to me and says he provided a valid tracking number, and you got the rubbers. You're trying to scam a refund.
So Paypal in all its wisdom, decides the case in favor of the seller. I lost about $190 odd USD.
The next week, I see the seller put the door seal listing back up on Ebay again, to scam some other poor $%^& all over again.
Eventually he would have got caught, but it just goes to show, sometimes you can't rely on Paypal to help. I was really angry for a long time over that one, and it made me really wary.

It might be ok. The Senator bits might show up. I hope they do. I want to believe not everybody is that dodgey....
 

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I bought 1 item from EBay, never again. For some reason I feel like you take a huge risk. However, Gun Broker and Cheap As Dirt firearms sites are like EBay and people are very trustworthy. Never had a scam sale.
 
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Always buy from a well known business on eBay. I always ring the seller in regards to what I'm buying. I've not bought much from eBay but mainly NOS that you can't buy anymore. Trying to source hard to get parts where I live is impossible in good condition. I had to drive to Newcastle just to buy seats from a wrecker that specialises in Commodores. At least when they get a car in, they strip it straight away & store it rather than let it rot in an outside yard.

Nice ride by the way.
 

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Well all is okay, the Senator pieces arrived today. So I wasn't ripped off! First up, we're going to talk about the WH dash and what can/can't be swapped and changed...


WARNING- If wood grain makes you squeamish, please look away NOW! DO NOT READ BELOW THIS LINE!

For those with a stronger stomach still reading on.... Here we go. So as everyone is probably already aware, here is what a standard WH Statesman or WH Caprice dash looks like. It has a single hoop of wood grain around the climate controls only, and it has an analogue clock:

(not my car, just a google example photo)
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This is my standard WH dash fascia I've removed, sitting in the grass:
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People often swap these WH woodgrain hoop fascias into lower spec Commodores. The analogue clock is pretty useless to me, as I have digital time in the HSV navigation screen anyways.

So here is what came in the mail:

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This is a Calais/Senator type dash fascia, and it is full wood grain and wraps around the cluster and does not have an analogue clock.

Tell me about the wrap-around woodgrain fascia?

Now, Calais was the first model to have the "full wrap-around wood grain fascia". Then HSV based the Senator off the Calais (in much the same way Grange is based off Statesman) so the Senators got the Calais full wood grain dash too.

Why did I want to do this?
I like being different, and I like a challenge. I was told that the Senator/Calais full wood grain fascia "Will never fit in a WH" as tabs and clips are wrong and it will not physically go in. Me being stubborn, I wanted to see if I could make it work. So I found this full wraparound fascia and bought it.

The other reason I wanted to do this conversion was due to the stereo issues in the stock WH surround. I want to fit a double DIN touch screen in the car, but the stock WH woodgrain has rounded corners in the stereo hole and everyone complains that nothing fits and the wood grain has to be cut and filed in the corners to fit an aftermarket heat unit. Not a problem with the Calais/Senator wood grain, as the stereo hole is square and a double DIN fits straight in. So that was my other reason for wanting to do this.

The Fitting.

I polished and cleaned the new wraparound fascia as it was secondhand.

I removed the old stock WH fascia from the car. I then removed the stock stereo by bending up some coathanger into "U" shapes and unlocking the stereo and sliding it out. Painfully. As the stock wiring was stuck and wouldn't let the stereo come out far enough to unplug the plugs at the rear. With some moderate swearing, and some brute frustration, I got the stereo unit out. These are the plugs behind a standard WH Caprice head unit, for future reference. (One plug is not used from the factory for some reason)

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So I began fitting the new fascia. I had to dremel and cut off and move a few tabs and make some moderate adjustments to tab placements.
Then came the seriously frustrating part.

I have the factory HSV satellite navigation where normal cars only have a storage tray and cigarette lighter. This became a huge problem for fitting the lower wood grain piece around the shifter and power window switch block. I had to cut (dremel off) all of the storage compartment and cigarette lighter (about 5 inches of material) off the lower shifter surround to make room to fit around the HSV sat nav screen. Once this was carried out, I then found out the gray bezel around the sat nav screen did not go into place, so more material had to be dremeled off the sides of the lower shifter surround until the sat nav bezel fitted into place. Here's some of what I had to dremel off and throw away in order to get it to fit:

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Then after that headache, I thought I was home free. I was still wrong.
The HSV sat nav remote control charge dock did not fit or clip over the side of the new fascia, so I had to modify the HSV remote control dock mount which took a lot more time to get right as I didn't want to rush it and make anything look dodgey or bodged. It all had to look factory.
6 hours later and after some fibreglass and some painting and custom work behind the fascia, I got everything to line up and fit and look like factory, with some swearing.

F$%^&*ing Behold, I have made it work.

I stood back and looked at it, and everything now appears factory. All the buttons and everything works.

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The interior is a bit dirty in the photo as I'd been in there cutting and dremeling and working away. I'll detail the interior soon...

What I gave up/ What I broke:

I have given up the WH factory analogue clock. But I never looked at it anyways.

I broke a tiny little cover on the passengers side of the stereo face, which covers the 2 little coathanger-unlock holes. But I later just lightly glued the little cover back into place, knowing that the stock head unit is being replaced with a double DIN anyways soon. If you look in the pictures, you'll see the tiny little cover on the left side of the stereo face hanging over about 1.5mm before I fixed it :p

What I gained:

I now have a normal square double DIN stereo hole, to easily fit any double DIN stereo I want, with no cutting or filing to the wood grain.

I have more faux woodgrain than before. Some people really hate woodgrain. They say its all 'old man' and they have a real hatred of it. I actually like it when its polished to a high gloss, and it doesn't seem 'old man' to me. It looks luxury, and it reminds me I'm driving a luxury car, not a base model. So while some people may have ripped the wood grain out, I've tried to add more and make the car unique and suit my taste instead.
 
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glad the parts turned up, I always worry when you pay for something and wait along time. paypal has worked in my favour many times, the fees ive payed them I don't worry abit it now.
BTW. the car is looking very neat :D
 
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At least your parts rocked up. I have to say I'm not a big fan of the VT-VX dash as I prefer the VY-VZ but each to their own opinion. I do like the woodgrain look as it suits the cabin & not over the top.

If I owned a Stato or Caprice I'd update the woodgrain look to keep it fresh as it is a luxury car & sets it apart. That analogue clock does suck a bit. I'm sure they could have designed something better as it looks like an after thought.
 
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