Gearbox troubles

[mouseno4]

Please read the signature below before replying to this. This is my first post on this forum and have only recently registered mostly because of the kind of replies every other thread was getting. I have visited this forum a number of times previously, but never registered previously.

Can someone tell me if the difficulty I have when attempting to place the gear stick into reverse is something to be concerned about? When I first purchased the car (VU SS manual), reverse was always difficult and required a fair bit of strength or entering a different gear without releasing the clutch, before going back to reverse easily.

The car can be stationary, first start up of the day or after a long drive. If the first gear I try is reverse after not being in a different gear recently, it is very difficult to get it in there. But, if the gear was recently in say, first gear, then reverse is easy to enter.

Please answer in the dumbest english so i can understand. Seriously. When the mechanic who performed the service of the vehicle attempted to explain this, I understood very little of what he said.

 

[mpower]

If the mechanic has given the ok, my bet is technique - reverse always has a little trick in a manual.

Maybe it's as simple as pumping the clutch in neutral.

 

[DLFHUB666]

Gear Engagement (Gen III Manual) - Some VT's may have trouble selecting reverse gear, or the selector does not go into reverse completely. When the clutch is released, grinding of the gears may be heard if reverse isn't fully engaged. The gear selector may also need to be physically held in reverse to use the gear. A possible cause can be a circlip missing from the forward pivot of the shifter rail. A missing circlip can allow the gearshift pivot pin to partially disengage and become loose, making gear selection difficult.

Cut/Paste from the vt-vx fault sticky at the top of this section.

 

[mpower]

Gear Engagement (Gen III Manual) - Some VT's may have trouble selecting reverse gear, or the selector does not go into reverse completely. When the clutch is released, grinding of the gears may be heard if reverse isn't fully engaged. The gear selector may also need to be physically held in reverse to use the gear. A possible cause can be a circlip missing from the forward pivot of the shifter rail. A missing circlip can allow the gearshift pivot pin to partially disengage and become loose, making gear selection difficult.

Cut/Paste from the vt-vx fault sticky at the top of this section.

there you go, maybe go back to the "mechanic" or better yet see a gearbox specialist

 

[SpaceYam]

The short answer is that reverse gear generally has no synchro, whereas all of the other gears do in modern manual gearboxes. Putting it in another gear (I usually use 4th just out of habit) can line up the gears so it goes in nicely. Alternatively, you can slip the clutch very slightly while keeping a little pressure on the shifter to let it drop into place. You'll get a slight crunch doing it this way though and that'll make you sound like you don't know what you're doing :banstick:

And for the simple and dumb answer to your question, as per your request:

Put it in a different gear then into reverse and you should be fine . This is normal!

 

[mouseno4]

Gear Engagement (Gen III Manual) - Some VT's may have trouble selecting reverse gear, or the selector does not go into reverse completely. When the clutch is released, grinding of the gears may be heard if reverse isn't fully engaged. The gear selector may also need to be physically held in reverse to use the gear. A possible cause can be a circlip missing from the forward pivot of the shifter rail. A missing circlip can allow the gearshift pivot pin to partially disengage and become loose, making gear selection difficult.

Cut/Paste from the vt-vx fault sticky at the top of this section.

Yeah i have noticed that. If reverse is not engaged completely i hear a spinning sound like a spinning top hitting a wall whilst spinning.

Dont forget guys... i dont speak car lingo.

The short answer is that reverse gear generally has no synchro, whereas all of the other gears do in modern manual gearboxes. Putting it in another gear (I usually use 4th just out of habit) can line up the gears so it goes in nicely. Alternatively, you can slip the clutch very slightly while keeping a little pressure on the shifter to let it drop into place. You'll get a slight crunch doing it this way though and that'll make you sound like you don't know what you're doing :banstick:

And for the simple and dumb answer to your question, as per your request:

Put it in a different gear then into reverse and you should be fine . This is normal!

Thanks! That is all i needed to know! I have no need to worry about it anymore. Just do what i already do as well as the suggestions mentioned so far, and accept it the way it is.

 

[SS-REX]

I just go in to 1st then reverse in all my cars heard some **** about it slows the syncros down or some bs but it works for me. Also check the clutch master hows the fluid looking?.

 

[BlackVXGTS]

I had the gearbox in my VX GTS removed twice under warranty to try and fix this problem in selecting reverse. Never fixed the problem. For the last 12 years I just select 4th and then it slips easily into reverse (as suggested by other forum members). It's not a big deal - don't waste your money trying to find a fix.

 

[MYVESSV8]

I had the gearbox in my VX GTS removed twice under warranty to try and fix this problem in selecting reverse. Never fixed the problem. For the last 12 years I just select 4th and then it slips easily into reverse (as suggested by other forum members). It's not a big deal - don't waste your money trying to find a fix.

just helps to line up the gears for easy selection the situation you describe can happen with other cars if they are not quite lined up( blackvxgts not you) mouseno4 I mean

 

[CONROD]

The T56 HAS SYNCROMESH on REVERSE GEAR

The reverse idler gear is in constant mesh with the counter gear extension and the reverse gear, splined to the
mainshaft. When reverse gear is engaged, the reverse synchromesh ring engages the reverse constant mesh gear,

Has the oil been replaced with a NON COMPLIANT heavy weight oil ???????

REVERSE LOCKOUT MECHANISM
The transmission is also fitted with a reverse
lockout solenoid assembly that prevents the
selection of reverse gear, above road speeds of 8
km/h. Above this speed, the Powertrain Control
Module (PCM), causes the solenoid plunger (1) to
block the movement of the spring loaded, reverse
lockout plunger (2) (See view ‘B, next).
When activated, the rear offset lever (3) is blocked
from rotating to the reverse selection