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Hoon Killed after Chase

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It did seemingly die a long time ago. I mean so many people have the mentality that because they do not like a law that it does not apply to them.

1 thing i find hard to grasp is the fact people some how think that everyone else is responsible for them...good example is in this very thread, people expecting the police to taxi or ferry them off somewhere when they have just broken the law :bang:

best thing i have ever seen was a little note above the mirror in the blokes toilet in a government building...'You are looking at the only person responsible for yourself.'

that little bit of writing should be plastered everywhere!
 

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In today's society kids are taught their rights and not their responsibilities. Someone falls over in the street and want to blame the council for uneven footpaths.

There probably will be an outcry that the police killed this idiot, which is far from the truth. He chose to walk off, he chose not to take a lift. But people today can't see that, they are looking to blame someone else.
 

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1 thing i find hard to grasp is the fact people some how think that everyone else is responsible for them...good example is in this very thread, people expecting the police to taxi or ferry them off somewhere when they have just broken the law :bang:

best thing i have ever seen was a little note above the mirror in the blokes toilet in a government building...'You are looking at the only person responsible for yourself.'

that little bit of writing should be plastered everywhere!

I grew having my parents say that to me all the time, moreso when I expected things from them when I was younger :p It is however a true statement, unfortunately it seems that everyone today thinks it is everyone else's responsibility except their own.

In today's society kids are taught their rights and not their responsibilities. Someone falls over in the street and want to blame the council for uneven footpaths.

There probably will be an outcry that the police killed this idiot, which is far from the truth. He chose to walk off, he chose not to take a lift. But people today can't see that, they are looking to blame someone else.

I am hoping it dies off in the distance, I mean seriously, had he not been speeding excessively, he would not of been facing impound, this means he would of had a 5 minute chat with police, been issued a fine and been on his way.

Regarding rights, there is one woman who has now attempted to sue a safeway store 4 times for "falling over". The manager of this store says it is hilarious to watch her on video. Her latest effort has seen her in a wheelchair and attempting to sue again. Apparently she sussed out all the visible dome cameras, what she did not bargain on was camera's which are a little more discreet. Quite pathetic really. Really makes it hard on those who have legitimate compensation claims.
 

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Just one thing that ANYONE has failed to mention, why is there no pressure on the driver that hit this kid?

I mean, were they drink driving? Were they hooting around themselves? The entire blame has been dumped onto a kid that can't defend himself now. While it was stupid he refused a ride, I'd like to know how this driver managed to hit someone.
 

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Just one thing that ANYONE has failed to mention, why is there no pressure on the driver that hit this kid?

I mean, were they drink driving? Were they hooting around themselves? The entire blame has been dumped onto a kid that can't defend himself now. While it was stupid he refused a ride, I'd like to know how this driver managed to hit someone.

Be ironic if a hoon hit a hoon.
 

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In today's society kids are taught their rights and not their responsibilities. Someone falls over in the street and want to blame the council for uneven footpaths.
Like the Lady suing Westfield and their cleaning company for slipping on a chip?
So hypothetically, i should stop working, and just fall over somewhere. Bloody Austramerica


Just one thing that ANYONE has failed to mention, why is there no pressure on the driver that hit this kid?

I mean, were they drink driving? Were they hooting around themselves? The entire blame has been dumped onto a kid that can't defend himself now. While it was stupid he refused a ride, I'd like to know how this driver managed to hit someone.
Going by the lack of publicity, the driver would have to be in the wrong, drink driving etc. They couldn't possibly blame him, its the hoons fault.
 

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Just one thing that ANYONE has failed to mention, why is there no pressure on the driver that hit this kid?

I mean, were they drink driving? Were they hooting around themselves? The entire blame has been dumped onto a kid that can't defend himself now. While it was stupid he refused a ride, I'd like to know how this driver managed to hit someone.

I think its just because we have no info on what happened with him being hit,and people are just commenting on what we have read.As ive been reading this i was wondering how it happened but thats all you can do with no information,wonder.
 

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1 thing i find hard to grasp is the fact people some how think that everyone else is responsible for them...good example is in this very thread, people expecting the police to taxi or ferry them off somewhere when they have just broken the law.

I fully understand this, but, in this case example, again, we have an obligation to keep pedestrians (etc) off freeway class roads.

IF that means a procedural change with 'confiscation' circumstance in relation to this class road, then so be it.

Example; if this were anywhere within continental EU, or on a GB motorway, you are simply *not* left to your own devices to leave that roadway, - after your car is towed away following a break-down, crash etc, all part of that International obligation (UN Convention on Road Traffic) again, that protects the person, passengers and other traffic.

The person should be 'directed' to wait and to not walk off. I see 'no obligation' on part of the towing industry with this requirement following enforcement action for an offence/s, - 'the state' bears fundamental responsibility for this. The issue IS NOT the persons 'offence or offences' that give rise to the scenario's after effect.

The 'requirement' is not just for the persons safety beneifit as stated above, BUT also for other traffic, which in this case on a prima facie basis, in my view, has been let down by systematic backwardness.

Either this mans family, or that of the 'other traffic' can/should seek legal redress from the state of Victoria. VICPOL, as we read, have made 'attempts' -to find him, a case would be not focussed on this aspect, but rather on requirement and duty of care when under obligation.

I'll chase NSW changes in respects this scenario, so that anyone stopped and who have their vehicles confiscated, are without fail, escorted from a designated signposted 'freeway, motorway or tollway'.

Note that 'freeway', in regards to pedestrian prohibition obligation, can only apply to such 'designated roads', meaning typical rural dual carriageway roads such as the NSW and VIC Hume, may not qualify as freeway, - unless so designated such. By practical example, the VIC Hume, although a 'freeway' as it is called/designated such, is not to freeway construction standards, but his is another issue.

ALTERNATIVE example of this scenario; IF 'the person' was a female with a baby/toddler, would VICPOL have let her walk off down the 'freeway' with aforesaid kid in stroller, even if she was insistent? Just because this was a young man, lends no lesser response.

I note some posters suggesting removal of speeding fines in favour of calling them 'hoon fines' etc. Interesting and cynicisim well understood. We are seeing 'hoon' definition expanding into general driving offences.
 
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Keepleft, I posted much the same sentiments previously.....which the respondents who posted after me had a chance to read? and still found the idea that you have revisited as "hard to grasp"?
 
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