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How much better is a 2015 Gen F R8 Wagon VS 2016 SSV Red Line Wagon

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Roger Govan-Smith, May 19, 2019.

  1. Roger Govan-Smith

    Roger Govan-Smith New Member

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    If a 2015 R8 wagon were only a few grand more expensive second hand. Would it be a better purchase over a 2016 SSV Redline wagon? What are the differences Pros & Cons over each other? Power and delivery? Fuel consumption? Handling? Investment Appreciation? Registration and Insurance costs?
     
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    sit down .. and match feature for feature
    think you will find the HSV wins .. by a nose


    ps.. I am biased owning a R8 SV HSV Clubbie Tourer
     
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    Your going to spend that much money but ask the internet to advise you :eek:
     
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    If you were looking to buy a manual, then that’s a pretty rare Tourer (and unobtanium in Redline).
    I think auto-for-auto, there’s not a huge amount in it, I’d just drive both & see whether you like the HSV enough more to pay the little bit extra. For example you might prefer the more supportive HSV seats, someone might have optioned it with the fiddly dial thingy which you might like (that was available as an option in R8 wasn’t it?). Pretty sure the last of the LS3 R8’s were 340’s, so probably around 20-25 real kW more than the LS3 Redline ... should be able to feel that.
    I’d be surprised if the HSV didn’t hold it’s value better based on rarity, but not craploads better due to the GenF2 cars being LSA.
     
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    HSV have the Magnetic ride suspension (MRC).
     

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    Hey buddy, brand new member here too!

    I went through a similar decision myself. Just moved to Australia from UK and wanted to get some V8 muscle.

    I ended up going for a Gen F R8 MY15 over various VF II Redlines.
    For me:
    Pros: nicer seats, nicer exterior colour/trim options, nicer gearbox feel (manual ;), much more full noise (redlines felt more artificial)
    Cons: more expensive upfront, insurance is tricky (40bhp really that much higher performance?!)

    Go drive some of each. I bought the one where I couldn't stop grinning afterwards
     
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    Pretty sure the R8 didn't get MRC until the LSA version.
     
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    You should also probably think about the availability of spare parts into the future. Things like front bumpers in case of accident. The HSV stuff is not as common as the Holden stuff, and a lot more expensive.
    But, you should buy the one that you like driving.
     
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    .. not in wagons
     
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    Tha extra 35 odd KW would be noticable. Cheers Smitty.
     
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    yes... and I think HSV were being modest with their SV engine ratings
    my wagon made 290rwkw (or was it 292?.. not 100% on the number) on a car club dyno day last year
    that is with a stock std manual R8 Clubbie.. unopened, std exhaust etc
     
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    Thats strange as generally HSV RWKW is further away from their quoted KW figure due to they test using DIN (no accessories on the engine) vs Holden who tests and quotes SAE (accessories on the engine).
     
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    I didn't think any manufacturer used DIN measurements any more? There's a good half a second difference between a stock VN 5.0 (165kW) and a VN Clubsport (180kW) from 0-100km/h. That would indicate HSV and Holden are measuring outputs the same way.
     
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    Yes HSV and Holden were doing this for a long time.
    HSV's were known not to produce the power many buyers were expecting.
     
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    If you check HSV’s website they still measure DIN and Holden SAE. All the way to VF series 2.
     
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