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now get rid of the paj and buy a patrol 
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Patrol???
In the price range of the Paj no Patrol is very capable off road. Maybe an old G60 but they are shocking on the road.
A lot of money has to spent on the pre-coil spring Patrols to get them to be good off road.
I'm happy enough with the Paj as it is more capable than many realise (once lifted, mine has 50mm extra) but they lack power. Well they have 12kW less, at 78kW, than the MQ 2.8 litre and weigh considerably less.
I'll just drive in the bush, mud and sand and sit next to Patrols whilst we wait for Lada Nivas, Suzuki Sierras or Rangies to pull us out. :yeah:
now get rid of the paj and buy a patrol
In the price range of the Paj no Patrol is very capable off road. Maybe an old G60 but they are shocking on the road.
A lot of money has to spent on the pre-coil spring Patrols to get them to be good off road.
I'm happy enough with the Paj as it is more capable than many realise (once lifted, mine has 50mm extra) but they lack power. Well they have 12kW less, at 78kW, than the MQ 2.8 litre and weigh considerably less.
I'll just drive in the bush, mud and sand and sit next to Patrols whilst we wait for Lada Nivas, Suzuki Sierras or Rangies to pull us out. :yeah:
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No I have the "Crawler Spec" 2.6 litre, which though underpowered is geared very well.
Went for a drive along with my brother and his Petrol 86 LWB Cruiser. I'm glad to say the Paj went through or over eveything including two obstacles my brother had to go around. He was trying to show me up but we were both surprised how competent the Pajero was in mud, sand and very eroded trails.
I'm happy for now.
No I have the "Crawler Spec" 2.6 litre, which though underpowered is geared very well.
Went for a drive along with my brother and his Petrol 86 LWB Cruiser. I'm glad to say the Paj went through or over eveything including two obstacles my brother had to go around. He was trying to show me up but we were both surprised how competent the Pajero was in mud, sand and very eroded trails.
I'm happy for now.
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It is $3000
WA only = $2000 federal rebate + $1000 state rebate.
If you do buy a new car that fits the criteria for factory gas you still only get a $3000 rebate.
Gas Power Australia is currently offering "free conversions" in that they price the conversion at $3000, you take a loan for $3000, pay for the conversion and then wait for the rebate of $3000. You may of course incur a set up fee and have to make the first payment before your rebate is received. Given interest charges the worst case scenario is it will cost you $100 - $300 out of your own pocket.
What is underhanded or cheeky by the installers is that prior to the State Government implementing the original $1000 rebate the average price to convert a Falcon was $1300. Immediately following the rebate the price jumped to $1900. With the $2000 rebate prices had risen to $2500 average and jumped to $3000 - $3500 when implemented.
Interesting!
WA only = $2000 federal rebate + $1000 state rebate.
If you do buy a new car that fits the criteria for factory gas you still only get a $3000 rebate.
Gas Power Australia is currently offering "free conversions" in that they price the conversion at $3000, you take a loan for $3000, pay for the conversion and then wait for the rebate of $3000. You may of course incur a set up fee and have to make the first payment before your rebate is received. Given interest charges the worst case scenario is it will cost you $100 - $300 out of your own pocket.
What is underhanded or cheeky by the installers is that prior to the State Government implementing the original $1000 rebate the average price to convert a Falcon was $1300. Immediately following the rebate the price jumped to $1900. With the $2000 rebate prices had risen to $2500 average and jumped to $3000 - $3500 when implemented.
Interesting!
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Lift
I have a receipt that states "50mm suspension lift kit plus fitting" in 1991 for $650 that's it.
I actually compared it to another Pajero today and it was only a little different if at all. Body wise it is attached to the chassis as it would have left the factory. I cannot tell if the rear leaf springs are any different from the original as nothing stands out as out of the ordinary, likewise with the front end. The actual shockies are/were bright yellow and a receipt from 2004 states "Gas Magnum Shockers 2 pairs $458.00".
If it was lifted it doesn't really appear to be now. It made me check all the numbers but it is the same car it was when it left the factory with matching numbers.
Maybe it was lowered again to get the sports car handling back .
Oh well, it still gets through a lot of heavy situations.
What I have noticed is that it appears lower at the front but has very good wheel travel compared to the rear end. Restrictions of leaf springs I suppose.
I'm still happy.
I have a receipt that states "50mm suspension lift kit plus fitting" in 1991 for $650 that's it.
I actually compared it to another Pajero today and it was only a little different if at all. Body wise it is attached to the chassis as it would have left the factory. I cannot tell if the rear leaf springs are any different from the original as nothing stands out as out of the ordinary, likewise with the front end. The actual shockies are/were bright yellow and a receipt from 2004 states "Gas Magnum Shockers 2 pairs $458.00".
If it was lifted it doesn't really appear to be now. It made me check all the numbers but it is the same car it was when it left the factory with matching numbers.
Maybe it was lowered again to get the sports car handling back
.Oh well, it still gets through a lot of heavy situations.
What I have noticed is that it appears lower at the front but has very good wheel travel compared to the rear end. Restrictions of leaf springs I suppose.
I'm still happy.
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im not going to argue, but just make a point that there are MQ and MK patrols very cheap, it does not go from G60 to GQ lol.
got any pics of the new girl?
what year? etc..
EDIT: a lift kit put in in 1991 will have sagged as per expected so thats probably why it sits low again. wouldnt hurt to go 2 inch spring and 2 inch body.
got any pics of the new girl?
what year? etc..
EDIT: a lift kit put in in 1991 will have sagged as per expected so thats probably why it sits low again. wouldnt hurt to go 2 inch spring and 2 inch body.
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Photo
I'll take a photo tomorrow. 1986 NC Wagon (Low roof).
Yes 91 is a long time ago, I will be considering a lift with new suspension if the money is there in the next few months.
No arguments from me, I was thinking MQ Patrols, SWBs aren't bad offroad but the LWBs are dismal without money spent on them. They drive a lot better than Landcruisers and use a lot less fuel though.
No the G60 was a tractor, the MQ was a truck and the GQ was like a smooth riding truck with good wheel travel . MK?, What year were they released?
Also today at the shopping centre someone was kind enough to replace the screws after removing my mirrors. They actually left the base of the drivers mirror or they may have replaced it with the remains of their mirror.:ranting:
im not going to argue, but just make a point that there are MQ and MK patrols very cheap, it does not go from G60 to GQ lol.
got any pics of the new girl?
what year? etc..
EDIT: a lift kit put in in 1991 will have sagged as per expected so thats probably why it sits low again. wouldnt hurt to go 2 inch spring and 2 inch body.
I'll take a photo tomorrow. 1986 NC Wagon (Low roof).
Yes 91 is a long time ago, I will be considering a lift with new suspension if the money is there in the next few months.
No arguments from me, I was thinking MQ Patrols, SWBs aren't bad offroad but the LWBs are dismal without money spent on them. They drive a lot better than Landcruisers and use a lot less fuel though.
No the G60 was a tractor, the MQ was a truck and the GQ was like a smooth riding truck with good wheel travel
. MK?, What year were they released?Also today at the shopping centre someone was kind enough to replace the screws after removing my mirrors. They actually left the base of the drivers mirror or they may have replaced it with the remains of their mirror.:ranting: