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VF II Windscreen washer pump access

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Anthony Jones, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. Anthony Jones

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    I suspect the windscreen washer pump has died on my wagon. I can hear the rear washer pump motor when the stalk is pushed forward but no noise or washer fluid from the front pump when the stalk is pulled. The front wipers still operate when the stalk is pulled. Front and rear pumps share a common fuse.
    What is the easiest way to get access to the pump/motor to check power supply and or replace the pump assembly?
     
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    Big Red VF-SII Go-kart I love puddles.

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    A timely post, because I have discovered there is no washer fluid coming out of the tailgate wiper nozzle, and attempts to clear it (with a photographic blower) have not fixed it. I have identified the rubber tube on the driver-side upper fender lip leading to the rear nozzle, and disconnected this to try and suck any obstruction out with a syringe, but that also does not work. Hmm. Is the pump for the tailgate washer in the rear somewhere? As in the above post, no problem with front nozzles when activated.
     
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    Hi Big Red. The pumps for both front and rear washers are on the reservoir so far as I can see. I just can't get my hand in there to pull the pumps out.
    Can you here the rear pump whirring when you push the stork?
     
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    Big Red VF-SII Go-kart I love puddles.

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    Maaaate, a guy with my level of deafness would be lucky to hear a bomb going off...:rolleyes:
     
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    From what I can see, the air box and associated whatnot to the throttle body have to be removed to gain clearance to the washer reservoir (?). Horror of horrors. Not something I will tinker with when I can't even load a roll of 120 film in a camera...drrrrft. :(
     
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    What :p
     
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    Can you hear the front washer pump motor?
     
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    Get a copy of the VF workshop manual as it seems an involved procedure to remove the washer bottle from the front left of the vehicle so you can then remove the washer pump from the bottle itself.

    You’d want to be sure it’s the washer pump that's not working before going down that path.
     
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    Front of the car up on ramps.
    Remove the lower tray from front bumper.
    Reservoir and pump should be accessible.
     
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    No. And I don't think the horn works either....:p
     
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    ha ha ha ...
     
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    Thanks for the link for the Manual. Much appreciated.
    I can see the pumps by looking through the bottom grille. If I can remove that I'll be able to reach in and pull the pumps out of the bottom of the reservoir.
     
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    At that Workshop Manual link it looks like they want permission to take over my computer before I can download it!
     
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    I use firefox and have a few privacy addons so some of the web pages content is blocked. When i click the download button, i get the save window for the manual (PDF file). Just make sure you have a working virus scanner.

    My virus scanner doesnt find the download to be suspect and the PDF opens without issue.

    Just make sure you click the correct download button as many free hosting sites cover their page with other crap not related to the download you actually want (and it can be easy to click the wrong button if you are not paying due attention)...
     
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    I observed that too, and a look at the code behind the page would suggest there is a bit of spying and harvesting going on. My Firefox is the latest, and has a few privacy add-ons, but all can be subverted by clever codec.
     
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    I have the VF manual. Can’t upload it because my Dropbox has the VZ one on it.


    Either way, I think the easiest way is to remove the bumper which takes 10mins. Then accessing the bottle isn’t a contorted process trying to get your hand up there. Easy job.

    Rear washer tube goes through to the cabin, up The A-pillar and along the roof to the back. From memory, it may even be attached to the roof panel.

    The bottle is mounted into the bumper support.
     
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    The vf manual is on a mediafire link and it is fine.
     
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    Frustratingly, we’re seeing more of this crap occurring, either by unscrupulous operators or government bodies, so it’s always a bit of cat and mouse game.

    As is, I’m always updating operating system and application software but sadly some don’t bother. I also scrub things clean between reboots and also reinstall at least twice a year... That way I’m reasonably comfortable with the integrity of my system (ignoring Intel’s hardware based compromises which yne6 are doin5 little to resolve :mad:)

    But if some internet retard web server wants to try and spy on me, the usually won’t see me again (because I’m boring). Guess I’ll stop suggesting that workshop post and it’s subsequent download link :( cause some may not understand how to best protect themselves on the www :oops:
     
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    Pinched from another post somewhere on the www but edited for clarity.

    mediafire itself shouldn't be a problem. However there are often adverts on mediafire download pages so if you use an adblocker and script blocker you are safe from these. If you lack those protections that adblockers and script blockers provide, then you run the risk that the adverts on the download page (like adverts anywhere else) could be used for drive-bys.

    This isn't a problem specific to mediafire, it's a problem on many websites including other large legitimate sites. This drive-by add risk is real enough but reasonably easily solved.
     
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    that is just a normal consequence of web browsing, unfortunately google ads does not monitor its content and many ads can contain scripts that are classed as an "annoyance" or "harmful" but none of it is directly related to mediafire.
    the best ad blocker is adblock plus which is available at adblockplus.org but when it comes to mediafire its self it is fine and it has been around since about 2006 and it has a decent reputation.

    myself i have probably downloaded about 10~20 tb from mediafire over the years and it has been fine.
    if people are really worried they can use an "unrestricter" site like real-debrid.com which basically allows you to take that mediafire link and convert it to a direct download link through their servers so you never have to actually visit mediafire or sites like it.
     

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