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vt shuddering problem - plugs? leads? coil pack? help please..

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Nice one! Sometimes it's cheaper to replace parts yourself on suspicion as a process of elimination rather than take it to the pros and pay them to guess instead ;)
 

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Ignition leads mate. Had the very same problem. Thought all sorts of issues, tranny, TBS etc. Ended up just being my ignition leads. It helped having my ute since new as i had never replaced the leads in 12 years of ownership. Got 250,000 klms out of the original leads. I know, how stupid. I replaced the ignition leads & it now runs like new again.
 

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ISSUE WITH CRIMP INSIDE LEAD END.

-Brand new leads.
-Found broken One pcv hose TB - Valley. Probably not associated but changed anyway.

My leads were clicked into the plugs
But they were loose and giggly as F.
On 6 and 1.

Gently pulled back (don't un-click) on each till it didn't wobble and stayed firm.

Solved it no more shudder!
 
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This is not a reply but a question
I have no idea where to write a starting question so as this is close to my own problem I will ask here if that's ok.

I have a VT 1 V6 in reasonable condition except that it started running rough if I take the number 6 spark lead of the coil there is no change in its roughness and there is also no spark coming from the number 6 coil point would this mean I have to replace the coil packs and DFI module? I replaced plugs and leads with all genuine parts.
Yeah ,if no spark from top of the coil, that coil is shot. I've replaced lots of them. Good luck.
 
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been having problems with my car shuddering while driving on the highway and around town. it seems to lose power or has lack of power to even pick up speed...

its like having wet spark plugs, struggles to coast, you can feel the car shudder bad when goin uphill ect..

its got a new fuel pump as the old one gave up...could it be a pump problem? it too iseems to be playing up when the fuel gets to under a 1/4 of a tank it stalls...gotta pull over n start the car again.....

should i just send it to holden to look at and service??

thoughts?
Did you make sure the new fuel pump is in the right place. If it's the same, the one in my Vs was sitting beside /behind? The swirl pot not in it. Ran out of fuel when it still had a 1/4 tank left. I drove like that for ages with problems like yours, till I found a great link on here with photos of a tank cut open ,so you can see where everything goes.
 
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Ive run into this problem myself. First thing you need to do - Go to supercheap and get a can of aerostart or start-ya-bastard.

What your doing is looking for vaccum leaks. WIth the engine at idle (max vacuum) carefully spray around these components, listening to hear if the engine revs up. Be careful, this stuff is flammable, and contains a high percentage of ether. Only need to spray a little bit.

Spray -
Seal between upper and lower intake manifold.
Seal around top of plenum.
Seal around IAC and Throttle position sensor
Back of plenum where vac hoses attach.
Back of left rear head where the vacuum distribution block sits.
Brake booster especially where the vac lines attach.
Vac hose under the throttle body - one goes to front right of intake manifold, the other goes to the back left head to the vac distribution block.
Joins between Throttle body and maf hoseing, and maf hoseing and maf.

No Rev ups ? Ok step 2.
pull all the spark plugs. Play close attention to the plug that comes out of #6 (closest to driver) if that plug is heavily oiled, replace the PCV.
Look for signs of lean burning - a whitish residue, powdery. Lean suggests blockage in fuel systems, though it is NOT definitive.
Replace plugs if necessary.
Remove and inspect plug leads, looking for signs of arcing. The rubber will burn under arcs, leavving a bluey ehite powder on the heat shields. Replace if any doubt.
At this point, replace the Coolant temperature sensor. It sits under the thermostat housing in the gooseneck at the top front of the block. It's cheap, $25 and can the source of a few hard to diagnosis problems.
Inspect your Coil packs. Look for cracking or heat ageing. replace if in any doubt. These are not so cheap. When a coil pack goes, they can often take the DFI out that they sit on. This unit basically triggers the coilpack to discharge, providing spark to the cylinders. If you lift of the coil packs, you may see heat ageing or discolorouration on the DFI contact plate. If you do, replace it. Burtons will sell you a set of coils and a DFI for $300.00

Still no resolution ?
next thing on the list is the cam angle sensor and the fuel systeem. The CAS has input on when the Coils fire, so your 'timing' can drift if it misbehaves. On the fuel side, check and replace your fuel filter, Clean the injectors (drop them off and check that the baskets in the end arent full of crap, and that all the seals are intact, rinse them in clean fuel, then rinse them in method and let dry. be sure to use re-assembly lube on the seals when re-assembling, stuffing these seals is a sure vacuum problem.), and also replace the fuel pressure regulator while the plenums off. It sits on the end of the fuel rail, and the regulator is held in by an internal circlip, on the broad face.

Next on the list is the complex stuff. The PCM - $88 from a wrcker - VT2 is only compatible with VT2 with same gearbox. With the pCM out (the passenger footwell) ensure that you don't have a water leak from the windscreen - dirt trails will be evident. The PCM will need a Tech with an OGBD scan tool to make the PCM talk to the BCM. it wont run without it.

Still no worky ? Welcome to my world.

This is exactly the same series of events i got with My VT2 and I've got to the point where it very very rarely hesitates, and only stalls because i have deliberatley retarded timing at idle (oversize Throttlebody gives big torque response when cracking the throttle).

Good luck - and if you find something that works please let me know.

Cheers
Wow big answer , just a quick note. You say change the fuel pressure regulator, like its changing a pair of socks. But have you seen how much SCA are asking for one of the these?! At least 1-2 hundred dollars
 

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Got the same problem now
Have spent weeks looking and swapping s**t arownd..
Dont no what to do next.
Please help me
Done:
coils
Leads
Plugs
Fuel pump
Injectors
Fuel filter
Cts.. etc
 
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