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vx v6 cranks but not starting up

kirraweeae

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I have a vx commodore v6 not starting,cranks over but not firing up. We have spark,fuel injection, fuel pressure and fuel volume. The vehicle has had a second hand motor fitted (same problem with both motors). We have tried another comutper,bcm, coils and dfi module. We have given the vehicle another fuel supply but still turns over and not starting up. second hand motor came with it's own sensors.
any ideas .
thanks Dave
 

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Is the key head matched to the BCM?
 

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^^^^^ Thats smarter than what my answer was going to be........
 

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If it was the neutral start switch, it wouldn't crank at all.
 

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it's a five speed manual, the remotes were programmed to bcm and linked to pcm.pcm fitted to another vx and ran fine.
 

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lol, how'd you know I was gonna say it was in gear?!

Anyhow, from what I read it seems as though you replaced the first motor because it was experienceing the same problem?! Which would make me think that it wasn't the key, unless of course the original motor never ran?
 

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How is the battery? If it isn't fully charged it won't start.
 

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So i'm understanding this correctly:

- It has Spark?
- the battery is fully charged?
- Its manual, so neutral switch doesn't apply?
- Theres fuel in the tank?
- The fuel pump is working?
- The fuel is getting into the rails? (lines are attached correctly)
- The starter motor is working?
- All sensors are attached?
- All vacuum lines/hoses are connected?
- key is linked to BCM?
- turns over like its going to start? (cleanly??)






If all that is the case I have no idea!!!!!!
 

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Its not starter / battery / Key because it cranks over.

I would throw a fuel ressure gauge in line with injector rail and see what sort of fuel pressure you have at the injectors. It's unlikely to be the cause, but it will confirm that fuel is ok. Another way to check is to drop the air hoses off tothe throttle body, open the throttle wide and spray aerostart into the plenum while they try and start. if it fires at all, even poorly, you have a fuel problem. Look at lines, injectors, injector trigger connections and the like.

You probably need to make sure your TPS and CAS are hooked up and look okay.

The most likely culprit is Spark. Pull a plug out, Clamp it to some hard area well away from the plughole, insulate it from earth, then have someone try and start it. Use a long screwdriver or something with an insulated handle to bridge between a known good earth - like a strut tower bolt, and the spark plugs outer electrode. Look for strong spark. If it's hard to see, or non existent, you have problems.

If thats the case, look at your coil packs, connections from coil pack to eart and positive and the like. Remove the coils and check the undersides for split cases.

Can only be one of three things, and one of those is a no brainer.

Fuel, air, spark.
 
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