Vic speed cameras signed now?

[Shifty1]

Was driving home from work the other day and I saw a sign: "SPEED TESTING AHEAD"

Is this the requirement now?

[_Mukas_]

i think its the speed testing as in the led sign things on the bridges that tell you youre going to fast or whatever...

[MikesVT]

A couple years ago the opposition (in vic) promised to put signs up whever there are speed cameras...

Some now have "traffic satfy cameras in the area" or something like that... Which normally means red light camera at the next set of lights, but now there are speed/red light cams popping up all over the place...

They SHOULD put signs up... even if there isnt a camera in a spot, put a sign up, people slow down...

Oh wait... that means they wont make any money... damn... I suppose that means we can scrap that idea

[Shifty1]

nah this was a car mounted speed camera.. white wagon..

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

This would be the camera that instantly checks your number plate against a data base of 'persons of interest'. Checks to see if the car has unpaid fines or the owner has warrants etc.

[Shifty1]

lol wasnt driving my car.. altho im clean and so is dad (it was his car at the time)

It just suprised me.. ive never seen them signed in vic..

[adam69]

All they are doing is testing the camera,they do this often near where i travel.It is not warning you they are there so you slow down.

[minux]

A couple years ago the opposition (in vic) promised to put signs up whever there are speed cameras...

Some now have "traffic satfy cameras in the area" or something like that... Which normally means red light camera at the next set of lights, but now there are speed/red light cams popping up all over the place...

They SHOULD put signs up... even if there isnt a camera in a spot, put a sign up, people slow down...

Oh wait... that means they wont make any money... damn... I suppose that means we can scrap that idea

oh FFS, even if there were signs money would still be made. I am sick of hearing revenue this revenue that, if people are still stupid enough to speed knowing perfectly well how many cams are around then they deserved to be caught. If you DO NOT speed you WILL NOT get fined, why is this so hard to comprehend?

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Because no matter how fast you are going or how much traffic is on the road, there is always one D***head that has to be in front of you.

[Troy711]

nah this was a car mounted speed camera.. white wagon..

speed vans in canberra have had them since they were introduced a number of years ago. they say 'your speed has been checked' and have the speed limit posted on the sign

[MikesVT]

oh FFS, even if there were signs money would still be made. I am sick of hearing revenue this revenue that, if people are still stupid enough to speed knowing perfectly well how many cams are around then they deserved to be caught. If you DO NOT speed you WILL NOT get fined, why is this so hard to comprehend?

All I'm saying is that by having a sign up saying that there is a camera in the area, even if there isnt, Its going to slow alot more people down than a car hiding behind a bush....

If you put these signs up everywhere, and put a speed camera with some/most of them, people will slow down wherever they see a sign, then put up as many signs as possible...

It gets people to slow down... THEN if someone STILL speeds, theyre the ones that should be off our road, and will get booked accordingly... Only problem with that 'solution' is that the number of fines will drop dramatically, but sure, there will still be penty of fines issued without a doubt.

[Bravotwozero]

All I'm saying is that by having a sign up saying that there is a camera in the area, even if there isnt, Its going to slow alot more people down than a car hiding behind a bush....

If you put these signs up everywhere, and put a speed camera with some/most of them, people will slow down wherever they see a sign, then put up as many signs as possible...

It gets people to slow down... THEN if someone STILL speeds, theyre the ones that should be off our road, and will get booked accordingly... Only problem with that 'solution' is that the number of fines will drop dramatically, but sure, there will still be penty of fines issued without a doubt.

Speed cameras are never hidden. They're always parked out where you can see them. I always treat as suss late model cars parked on the side of the road. Especially if they're on a nature strip. I reckon they're easy to spot. Now radars are a different story. But at least if you get done by a radar, you get pulled over. Which means if you play your cards right or weren't speeding excessively, he/she may just let you go.

But I reckon anyone who says these things are in place as a road safety measure is living in a fantasy land with lepricorns and fairies.

[maxy0987]

I have a sign up in my area but no camera, i always look for it lol, sign has been there a good 5 years but there has never been a camera as far as im aware.

I've seen that 'radar speed test' thing up before though, they then flash yoru speed on an LED sign for you. i think it's a mix of getting you to slow down and also letting you test your speedo.

[padrickz88]

All I'm saying is that by having a sign up saying that there is a camera in the area, even if there isnt, Its going to slow alot more people down than a car hiding behind a bush....

If you put these signs up everywhere, and put a speed camera with some/most of them, people will slow down wherever they see a sign, then put up as many signs as possible...

It gets people to slow down... THEN if someone STILL speeds, theyre the ones that should be off our road, and will get booked accordingly... Only problem with that 'solution' is that the number of fines will drop dramatically, but sure, there will still be penty of fines issued without a doubt.

i agree with mike, seriously.... ive drive pretty far sometimes and just crusing on the hway at 100 and ive seen the cops ahead and i looked at my speedo and i was 5 k'z over.. and i was driving constantly for hours that day... and when you dont have cruise control its hard to be 100% all the time, after all were human.... if someone is doing 50 over the speed limit then book them!.... sometimes people creep over the speed limit without knowing and it gives them people who are a lil over a chance to slow down, and if there isnt a camera THEN it just puts more fear into people..... more signs less camera's and rotate them..... people wont know were they are, so they wont want to speed.... and people cant say "they arnt doing it for revenue" because we all know they are, you should see how many camera's there are on the western ring road:|

[Rufus®]

oh FFS, even if there were signs money would still be made. I am sick of hearing revenue this revenue that, if people are still stupid enough to speed knowing perfectly well how many cams are around then they deserved to be caught. If you DO NOT speed you WILL NOT get fined, why is this so hard to comprehend?

This is my sentiment exactly too.

Although I do wonder what the government would do if all of a sudden people didn't speed break any traffic laws, and hence they made no revenue from traffic offences. Would speed tollerences drop or better yet would speed limits drop in the hope of catching people out? Can we screw the government?? lol

[minux]

All I'm saying is that by having a sign up saying that there is a camera in the area, even if there isnt, Its going to slow alot more people down than a car hiding behind a bush....

If you put these signs up everywhere, and put a speed camera with some/most of them, people will slow down wherever they see a sign, then put up as many signs as possible...

It gets people to slow down... THEN if someone STILL speeds, theyre the ones that should be off our road, and will get booked accordingly... Only problem with that 'solution' is that the number of fines will drop dramatically, but sure, there will still be penty of fines issued without a doubt.

What the, you are joking right? All signs will do is slow people down when they see the sign, then speed up when they pass it. Sorry, but it isnt hard with or without cruise to sit on or just under the speed limit.

As someone else said, lets screw the government by not giving them free money. Slow down. Simple.

[MikesVT]

Welll.. you see, people are going to speed anyway.. no matter what you do, no matter what you say, peolpe are going to speed... simple...

We want people to slow down? Put up the signs, watch the people slow down...

What we're doing now isn't working, all its doing is saying 'no, i'd rather not try any other approach, We're making good money out of it this way'.

I'm not justifying speeding in any way, in any situation (apart from REAL emergencies of course). All I'm saying is, what we're doing now isnt working... But, as you all agree, seeing a sign is going to get people to slow down, even if it is for that little stretch of road.

Chuck up a whole bunch of the signs everywhere, and as padrickz said, rotate the cameras, no one will know where they REALLY are, and will slow down every time they see a sign, practically halving the need to even have speed camreas.

And when people see speed cameras, or a car parked on the side of the road.. they dont slow down anyway??? Its only the few people that dont, that will also get caught out by what im saying...

I'm not saying its a perfect solution, I'm not saying take away all speed cameras (even though they should, but im not saying that, im being practical and opening up my eyes and my mind)... All I'm saying is... Its a better way, which will more effectivly slow drivers down in MANY more areas than a speed camera can do

[Troy711]

point to point speed cameras will slow people down for sure. i read a report that they could in theory track you from one part of the state to another and work out if you broke the speed limit over the entire trip

[JBDrifter]

point to point speed cameras will slow people down for sure. i read a report that they could in theory track you from one part of the state to another and work out if you broke the speed limit over the entire trip

Don't they already do this with trucks? I heard there are laws in place now that restrict how much driving a truck driver can do in any given 24 hour period (or it might be 48 hour?), so they have these point to point camera's set up to record how much driving they are doing, and also how long the trip has taken them. If they have done the trip too quickly then they know that they have been speeding.

[MikesVT]

^ I think they already do this... I think It might be on the Hume Highway? (Unless they just have a whole bunch of speed cameras in only a few kms)

Cameras along a stretch of road however long measure your speed at certain intervals, and then calculate your average speed, depending on how long it took you to get from point A and point E for instance.

And like you said Troy, "Speed cameras will slow people down for sure", Wont a Sign saying that there is a speed camera ahead do the same thing? Except now, you can have more signs that speed cameras, hence, people will be slowing down in more areas, even if it is just for that little stretch of road... as they do now anyway.

From the people that don't agree with me... Do I at least have a legitimate point here?

[JBDrifter]

^ I think they already do this... I think It might be on the Hume Highway? (Unless they just have a whole bunch of speed cameras in only a few kms)

Cameras along a stretch of road however long measure your speed at certain intervals, and then calculate your average speed, depending on how long it took you to get from point A and point E for instance.

And like you said Troy, "Speed cameras will slow people down for sure", Wont a Sign saying that there is a speed camera ahead do the same thing? Except now, you can have more signs that speed cameras, hence, people will be slowing down in more areas, even if it is just for that little stretch of road... as they do now anyway.

From the people that don't agree with me... Do I at least have a legitimate point here?

Yeah I believe you have a legitimate point, signs will slow people down... even if it is only for a small section of the road. I think it would work most effectively in trouble areas notorious for speeding and running red lights. Mobile speed cameras on the side of the road aren't very effective, people can see exactly where they are, so they slow down then speed right back up when they have passed them. A sign on the other hand gives a good warning to the speeding motorists, and chances are they will slow down and keep their speeds at or below the speed limits longer because they don't know if they have passed the camera yet or not.

Of course the perfect solution is for everyone to just stop speeding, but that just ain't gonna happen. There's always gonna be idiots out there that are going to drive like hoons, so the best we can do is try to control them as best as possible. Harsher penalties may also be effective, but that will only increase the debates of camera's being there for revenue raising.

[minux]

Don't they already do this with trucks? I heard there are laws in place now that restrict how much driving a truck driver can do in any given 24 hour period (or it might be 48 hour?), so they have these point to point camera's set up to record how much driving they are doing, and also how long the trip has taken them. If they have done the trip too quickly then they know that they have been speeding.

Yes, safet cam monitors heavy vehicles, if you travel through cameras too quickly, you are in trouble.

Point to point would be great, providing a fair variance was in place.

[immortality]

here in NZ they had signed speed camera area's then they trialled hidden speed camera zones, now they got rid of the signs and the whole country is a speed camera zone!!!! then they weren't picking enough people up for speeding (read not enough revenue) so now they are starting to reduce the tolerances last i heard anyways