JC Political Thread - For All Things Political Part 2

[Lex]

There will only be one Scummo.

Thats not entirely correct! They usually have different names, but the thing that they all have in common is that they are all called politicians.

 

[keith reed]

We do complain about our politicians and rightly so but who in their right mind would ever want the job. You have to be some special kind of nuts. Some of them however have been well quailified.

 

[Lex]

We do complain about our politicians and rightly so but who in their right mind would ever want the job. You have to be some special kind of nuts. Some of them however have been well quailified.

My old man told me when l was a kid (teenager). The reason these people become politicians is because they are not smart enough to get a job in the private sector.

Not long later the pollies voted in they only had to be in politics for 10 years, then they could retire with at least a $million dolllars!

 

[rambunctious]

To be frank, I really don't care whether they get this voice in or not....I see it as another way for the pollies to spend tax payers money....

And yes call me ignorant, pig headed or what ever...I really don't care about it....

I checked my mail box before and here is a no card in there....It promptly went into the recycle bin, just to keep Greta happy

You are not on your own, the voice is doomed to fail bc most people who have any understanding of how the labour party works will understand this is all about money going into the hands of the pricks who least deserve it.

 

[chrisp]

My old man told me when l was a kid (teenager). The reason these people become politicians is because they are not smart enough to get a job in the private sector.

Not long later the pollies voted in they only had to be in politics for 10 years, then they could retire with at least a $million dolllars!

Careful of out of date information. Since the November 2004 new parliamentarians have only had access to an accumulation type of superannuation scheme. The employer contribution is about 15.5%. So ten-years of service (which would be a very long time in politics) would equal about 1.5 times their annual salary plus any interest earned along the way. I believe (but I’m not totally sure?) that the preservation age is the same as the general public. Yes, it’s a reasonably generous scheme but it isn’t like it’s a total windfall.

There would be very few serving Victorian parliamentarians still on the older defined benefits scheme.

Some information here (if anyone is interested)… https://www.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-12/MP superannuation review - issues paper.pdf

 

[Immortality]

It's still to much if you ask me.

 

[figjam]

You are not on your own, the voice is doomed to fail bc most people who have any understanding of how the labour party works will understand this is all about money going into the hands of the pricks who least deserve it.

Not so sure that it will fail.
Seems that most ethnic, not born in Australia, city dwellers do not understand what it is all about, and are likely to be swayed by the loud, hysterical 'Yes' vote campaigners.

 

[vc commodore]

You are not on your own, the voice is doomed to fail bc most people who have any understanding of how the labour party works will understand this is all about money going into the hands of the pricks who least deserve it.

I honestly think, peoples attitude towards other races need changing before things can move forward.

Don't get me wrong....Attitudes have changed over time towards other races, but there is still that minority that refuse to change what they think about other races and won't budge either way...

Oh and to be quite clear....I have no problems with any race/colour/religion.....

 

[Sabbath']

The perfect way to solve two problems with one sweeping change would be any politician can get a pension. $300,000 a year. That's fine. $500,000? Bring it on.

But.

The pension is reliant on performance in that cost blowouts of projects due to negligence and oversight in the planning or delivery phase not wholly out of their control (Im thinking one in 100 year pandemic style circumstances) then their pension is taxed at a rate of say...90% per year, every year until the blowouts are paid back.

You never know, it might actually make them more accountable with our money.

 

[AirStrike]

The perfect way to solve two problems with one sweeping change would be any politician can get a pension. $300,000 a year. That's fine. $500,000? Bring it on.

But.

The pension is reliant on performance in that cost blowouts of projects due to negligence and oversight in the planning or delivery phase not wholly out of their control (Im thinking one in 100 year pandemic style circumstances) then their pension is taxed at a rate of say...90% per year, every year until the blowouts are paid back.

You never know, it might actually make them more accountable with our money.

Yeah these crazy pensions blow my mind, like a lifetime bonus even if you do poorly in the role.