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I'm Sorry RK but you are wrong the Search Box in Windows 7 does suggest from the first letter - did you also know that the Search in Windows 8 and 10 is nerfed anyway..

Review: Windows 10 is the best version yet

A new Start menu, not necessarily a better one

However, this is not the All Programs view of Windows 7 and below. In every Start menu-equipped version of Windows, from Windows 95 to Windows 7, the Start menu was driven by a set of folders and shortcuts on the file system. Those folders and shortcuts were all reflected in the Start menu, including their hierarchical organization. As such, organization of the Start menu was user-controlled. Many stuck with whatever random folders applications created when they were installed, of course, but some created their own elaborate hierarchies and structures to group their applications in whichever way they felt was appropriate.

In Windows 10, it's... different. Windows creates a per-user database containing all the entries that are in Start, both the live tile portion and the All apps portion. This database is (inexplicably) maintained by a system service running as the super-privileged SYSTEM identity. And at the time of writing, this database has the oh-so convenient feature of being limited to around 500 entries.
On fresh Windows 10 installs you'll probably never notice the difference, since it'll take some time to build up 500 or so entries. On my main PC with a full install of Office 2016, the Adobe Creative Cloud suite, Visual Studio 2015, Visual Studio 2013, and many more applications besides, I blew right past this number. The result? The All apps view didn't show all my programs. This would be tolerable if that's all that happened. Stupid and annoying, but tolerable, because since Windows Vista, I've launched apps from Start in exactly one way: by typing the name of the app to search for it. I don't really care about All apps at all.

Except that searching breaks, too. For search-to-start apps, Windows appears to use the same database. If that database is incomplete (because you have too many entries) then too bad, so sad; it won't find your apps and you'll have no good way of launching them.

Better yet, even if you reduce the number of apps to below 500 or so, it doesn't fix anything. There's no easy way to make it re-read all the short cuts in the Start menu directory (that still exists, because it's where installers expect to put their icons) to regenerate the database. This problem has bitten me and a few others.

I'm hoping that Microsoft will release a patch soon, because it's quite debilitating right now. And the entire thing perplexes me. In principle, the upgrade floodgates are going to open now that Windows 10 is officially out. I daresay that most Windows versions never have many people upgrade them. Upgrading is always an option, of course, but mainstream users tend to keep the operating system that their hardware came with. Even among those who switch operating systems, many prefer clean installs to the in-place upgrades. In clean installs, the 500 entry limit is going to be hard to hit.
 
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I'm Sorry RK but you are wrong the Search Box in Windows 7 does suggest from the first letter

Yes I know that... I didn't say it didn't. I said it's didn't from anywhere on the computer. I.e. the results/suggestions aren't system wide.

And the search issue in W10 is one of the things that will no doubt be patched.
 

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I despise the Start Screen. I used to interfere heavily with gaming. Any program that I needed to use for streaming etc was embedded into the start screen which required a full screen start screen to overlap and hide my game often minimising it and causing it to behave badly. I didnt mind it on my xbox etc. But on my desktop i just hated the way it worked. Im sure some of it was the resistance to change, however for my needs the screen was rubbish.
 

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Yes I know that... I didn't say it didn't. I said it's didn't from anywhere on the computer. I.e. the results/suggestions aren't system wide.

And the search issue in W10 is one of the things that will no doubt be patched.

Unlike Vista the search in Windows 7 suggests from Control Panel applets, Programs, files even emails in Outlook and documents, pictures and music - I don't know what you mean. Are you sure you remember W7 search correctly?

Like Grennan and many others, I too DESPISE the Start Screen - just the sight of it makes me want to smash things.
 
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pretty easy to get rid of the start screen if you don't like it anyway, plenty of free programs etc to fix all the bullshit in windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 anyway.

I've just made em all look like I'm running XP with Aero basically haha.
 

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RK, are you referring to desktop or tablet?
 

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pretty easy to get rid of the start screen if you don't like it anyway, plenty of free programs etc to fix all the bullshit in windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 anyway.

I've just made em all look like I'm running XP with Aero basically haha.

Yeah Ill update to 10 over the weekend. For now Im using 8 with the toolbar.
 

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pretty easy to get rid of the start screen if you don't like it anyway, plenty of free programs etc to fix all the bullshit in windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 anyway.

I've just made em all look like I'm running XP with Aero basically haha.

They made Windows 7 too good if you ask me.

Out of ideas.
 
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