Aussie/China relationship........

[lmoengnr]

It will be interesting to see if aussie's listen to Scomo and start to boycott Chinese made goods ....

We are already leaving chinese products on the shelf

The ChiComs are very good at playing the victim card.....

 

[shane_3800]

It will be interesting to see if aussie's listen to Scomo and start to boycott Chinese made goods ....



Your wrong there. In some states it is perfectly legal for the electors to go against the popular vote and it has occurred on a number of occasions however not enough in recent history to change the overall result.

The whole US voting system is out of date and needs a proper overhaul because under the current system votes in some states are definitely worth more than votes in other states. It's rather backwards when someone can win the popular vote and yet not win Presidency as has happened twice in the last 2 decades.

Sorry I wrote can instead of will.

 

[Fu Manchu]

Do we talk about this stuff? Will the forum start “mysteriously” going down again?

 

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

China as a major trading partner is Krudd's legacy. During his term, the Gov encouraged trade with China making us more or less totally reliant on them as a trading partner. China has placed themselves in a very economic dominant position over Australia and will damage quite a lot of our industry here as a result of sanctions and tariffs they have imposed.

As a people, they are very arrogant and dominant, as a nation just the same. The company I work for is Japanese owned and they will assimilate, unlike the Chinese that want to dominate and segregate.

 

[Immortality]

Do we talk about this stuff? Will the forum start “mysteriously” going down again?

That exact thought was at the front of my mind when I started this thread but we are monitoring the situation.....

edit: this is what they want though, to be too scared to talk about what they do. We need to stand up to the bullies that they are.

 

[figjam]

As a people, they are very arrogant and dominant, as a nation just the same.

On target there.
Without going into details that would fill a page of this forum, the mother of our 10 year old grand-son came to Aus as a student in about 2006. You would have to go a long way to meet a more self centred, arrogant, unco-operative, high living, money hungry b****.
If she is indicative of that population, we are fucked.

I totally dissagree. If we were at war you would be surprised what will get done.

As for Australia’s current preparedness for an armed conflict ……….

Prior to WW1, Aus imported most manufactured good from Mother England. That stopped due to the war.
The powers that be within our coastline decided that this was not a good idea to import everything, so a manufacturing and infrastructure base was set up.
Cars, ships, steelworks, roads, railways etc.
When WW2 hit, Aust had a base to switch over to munitions and other such hardware.
Check out the history of Ford and Holden during that period.
The RAAF Boomerang may not have been a terrific world beating fighter, but from paper to production took only about 3 months. (The current RAAF F35 has taken nearly 10 years to get here).

1950s and 60s we were just about independent in self sufficiency.
Australia is now 120 years into the past, just swapping Mother England dependency to Step-mother China, having bugger-all manufacturing for everyday products, and relying on doddering old Uncle Sam rather than Mother England for protection.

The wheels have fallen off, we can’t get mobile phone reception for roadside service, new parts are NLA.
Our political parties have both doing a good impression of Burke and Wills for the past 35 years.
Please excuse my cynicism.

 

[VS 5.0]

China wan't to play in the world economy

China wants to rule the world economy (and the world for that matter).

 

[Immortality]

Well yes and it's time the bully gets kicked out of the sand pit.

On target there.
Without going into details that would fill a page of this forum, the mother of our 10 year old grand-son came to Aus as a student in about 2006. You would have to go a long way to meet a more self centred, arrogant, unco-operative, high living, money hungry b****.
If she is indicative of that population, we are fucked.



As for Australia’s current preparedness for an armed conflict ……….

Prior to WW1, Aus imported most manufactured good from Mother England. That stopped due to the war.
The powers that be within our coastline decided that this was not a good idea to import everything, so a manufacturing and infrastructure base was set up.
Cars, ships, steelworks, roads, railways etc.
When WW2 hit, Aust had a base to switch over to munitions and other such hardware.
Check out the history of Ford and Holden during that period.
The RAAF Boomerang may not have been a terrific world beating fighter, but from paper to production took only about 3 months. (The current RAAF F35 has taken nearly 10 years to get here).

1950s and 60s we were just about independent in self sufficiency.
Australia is now 120 years into the past, just swapping Mother England dependency to Step-mother China, having bugger-all manufacturing for everyday products, and relying on doddering old Uncle Sam rather than Mother England for protection.

The wheels have fallen off, we can’t get mobile phone reception for roadside service, new parts are NLA.
Our political parties have both doing a good impression of Burke and Wills for the past 35 years.
Please excuse my cynicism.

And yes, if we learn anything from Covid is that we need to be more self reliant and definitely not have all our eggs in the one basket...

 

[shane_3800]

On target there.
Without going into details that would fill a page of this forum, the mother of our 10 year old grand-son came to Aus as a student in about 2006. You would have to go a long way to meet a more self centred, arrogant, unco-operative, high living, money hungry b****.
If she is indicative of that population, we are fucked.



As for Australia’s current preparedness for an armed conflict ……….

Prior to WW1, Aus imported most manufactured good from Mother England. That stopped due to the war.
The powers that be within our coastline decided that this was not a good idea to import everything, so a manufacturing and infrastructure base was set up.
Cars, ships, steelworks, roads, railways etc.
When WW2 hit, Aust had a base to switch over to munitions and other such hardware.
Check out the history of Ford and Holden during that period.
The RAAF Boomerang may not have been a terrific world beating fighter, but from paper to production took only about 3 months. (The current RAAF F35 has taken nearly 10 years to get here).

1950s and 60s we were just about independent in self sufficiency.
Australia is now 120 years into the past, just swapping Mother England dependency to Step-mother China, having bugger-all manufacturing for everyday products, and relying on doddering old Uncle Sam rather than Mother England for protection.

The wheels have fallen off, we can’t get mobile phone reception for roadside service, new parts are NLA.
Our political parties have both doing a good impression of Burke and Wills for the past 35 years.
Please excuse my cynicism.

Comparing a WW2 plane to a F35 is a joke right?

We have industry. When the big car manufactures left Australia the Automotive Aftermarket Association of Australia lobbied the government for assistance to switch the parts suppliers over to aftermarket parts manufacture. The Liberal government did nothing but I believe a lot of the industry still is there making parts for god knows what (probably Space X). So we have heaps of industry but one issue is its all high tech so CNC machines. All the old manual machines built in the UK and US are too old to use and have been sold off so now we have a lot of manual machines that are inferior made in china. All the high quality machine tool manufactures don't make manual machines any more only CNC.

We really need a machine tool manufacture making high quality machine tools that are not CNC'ed but alas this would require a new smelting facility which can't be built with uncertain reliable power in the future.

The Paris agreement is really shooting ourselves in the foot in-front of a impending conflict with China....... and retard lefties want Biden to re-sign????

 

[Immortality]

Bollocks, there is some great old school machinery out there that is better than a lot of the new stuff coming in. CNC is great for production run stuff but manual machines are just fine too for one off work and odds and ends etc.

What is wrong with limiting smog producing industries? There are other ways to create power than just burning coal and the example of the WW2 fighter Vs the F35 is a demonstration of can do Vs politics which is why the F35 took 10+ years...