hey champ sounds like u know a fair bit about holdens,,, if u dont mind i have a question for u,,, i just baught a brand new ve sidi ute , when i first got it it did sik burnouts and prob done about 5 decent burnout since ive had it, i usaly just turn traction control off then drop it and it spins, now wen i turn it off is just shutters and doesnt do them, went to holden today and they said everythings sweet,,, u have any ideas?