Bathurst - The final year Holden at the great race

[keith reed]

I only watched parts of the race due as much to the commentators. They were a bit over the top.

One thing that did stick out was the lack of Fords. I don't know how many started the race but when I was looking there were only 6 on a page of about 25-30 cars.

I don't think that Bathurst will have the excitement of foregone years and that the introduction of the Camaro isn't going to help. If they want to keep Bathurt alive they are going to come up with a different formula. It was nice to see a Holden win the race but having them there was a bit pointless due to Holdens no longer being made.

 

[Immortality]

Safety is fine if they follow typically rules and regs as the Toyota 86 series, basically standard cars with brakes and a full cage and fire system

Unfortunately a stock Commodore (like the ZB) just isn't going to cut it for a top tier racing series. Hell, even a stock 5.0 mustang or equivalent Camaro wouldn't be that great so then you start fitting better brakes and more powerful engines and at those speeds suddenly a stock engine pan with a roll cage just isn't that great, the whole reason they went to tubular chassis in the first place.

 

[Ginger Beer]

Unfortunately a stock Commodore (like the ZB) just isn't going to cut it for a top tier racing series. Hell, even a stock 5.0 mustang or equivalent Camaro wouldn't be that great so then you start fitting better brakes and more powerful engines and at those speeds suddenly a stock engine pan with a roll cage just isn't that great, the whole reason they went to tubular chassis in the first place.

Yeah but your not really increasing the power that much, some headers and a tune don't really do alot, and once you weld in an approved cage the chassis is solid

You don't need to do 300kph down the straight for good motorsport

The point is to get production cars that people can relate to and buy, I believe in the "win on Sunday sell on Monday" mantra

Honda boys want to see Honda's racing, Hyundai boys, Ford boys, Mazda boys, Subaru boys, Toyota boys, VAG boys, there all the same............they all want their brand of car in the driveway to win

This is also how production cars improve, the competition makes manufacturers work for it, to make a better base for a race car, they need to improve the production car

Meh, I would rather watch these 350hp cars than a 2 car NASCAR type series, and do would most people born after 1990

Imagine if they had the support and publicity that the Supertaxis have, I would gladly say goodbye to the NASCAR supertaxis and hello to real world, average joe, racing

Old dinosaurs need not apply

 

[07GTS]

meanwhile in Aus... win on sunday sell.... ooh wait, order in on monday after arguing about available colors, wait 4 months to get in from overseas, eventually drive on a monday

 

[Ginger Beer]

meanwhile in Aus... win on sunday sell.... ooh wait, order in on monday after arguing about available colors, wait 4 months to get in from overseas, eventually drive on a monday

Mate that is world wide, shipping at the moment is the rubbish

 

[DavesSV6Tonner]

The point is to get production cars that people can relate to and buy, I believe in the "win on Sunday sell on Monday" mantra

Honda boys want to see Honda's racing, Hyundai boys, Ford boys, Mazda boys, Subaru boys, Toyota boys, VAG boys, there all the same............they all want their brand of car in the driveway to win

This is also how production cars improve, the competition makes manufacturers work for it, to make a better base for a race car, they need to improve the production car

Sounds a lot like how it all began. Appendix J Group 1 Series Production or Group E as we knew it back in the 60's and early 70's.

 

[Derekthetree]

Holden hasn't raced there for years.

I'm really looking forward to Gen 3, while it's never going to the the same as manufacturer based racing it's probably as close as we are ever going to get to the good ol days.

This, did this years RBR/888 cars even say Holden on them? Main sponsor was Ampol IIRC

Its why I bought a whole load of the merch last year before the name disappeared.

 

[J_D 2.0]

Mate that is world wide, shipping at the moment is the rubbish

In my job the standard lead time has now been pushed out to 5 months when it used to be 4 months. Some items are taking up to 12 months to arrive.

 

[Immortality]

Yup. Before my company went belly up this year we were waiting over 6 months for stock to arrive, than we had a **** load arrive but not all of what we needed, than the suppliers said no more available and we walked out the door (for ever) not long after.

 

[DavesSV6Tonner]

This, did this years RBR/888 cars even say Holden on them? Main sponsor was Ampol IIRC

Its why I bought a whole load of the merch last year before the name disappeared.

The cars did at least sport the Holden Lion emblem on the radiator grille.
I noticed the Erebus Boost Mobile Crummydores had the erebus logo on the grille instead.