Home Security Cameras

[hademall]

Geez, you guys and your hi-tech security gizmos. I’ve got a f@#king massive dog kennel outside my front door. Seems to do the job okay

 

[Immortality]

My missus doesn't like dogs unfortunately

 

[hademall]

My missus doesn't like dogs unfortunately

You don’t need the dog!

 

[keith reed]

You don’t need the dog!

Very handy things, especially if they have a decent bark.

 

[Bigfella237]

Yeah, but have you looked at your third-party liability insurance cover if your dog bites some little oxygen thief while they're in the commission of B&Eing your property? It makes little difference anyway as dogs are easily baited and then you're completely defenceless, and even worse, clueless as to what's happening around your property.

I'm also running a Synology NAS with hardwired PoE Hikvision cameras (and I'm only buying 8MP (or better) with audio from now on). The Synology NAS also doubles as cold storage for my PC backups, media, etc., and as my Plex server. (It will do a hundred other things too, like web page hosting, internal mail server, etc. but I don't need any of that.)

All the cameras are on a unique dedicated network (sharing the same switch but using a different subnet and VLAN) and can only see the Synology NAS (which also acts as a time server for the cameras). The cameras can't reach the internet at all, which was why the yanks were having a big hissy fit over Hikvision products. If they used half a brain and setup their systems properly it's not an issue.

I absolutely hate anything to do with cloud storage, or monthly subscriptions for third-party monitoring, or even having to create an account on somebody's webpage and hand-over all your personal information just so you can use a product which you bought and paid for! So I was on a mission to do everything locally.

I get alerts and access the camera feeds/recordings on my phone via the second LAN port of the NAS, I also have the DScam apps on all my SmartTVs so I can monitor any/all of the feeds throughout the house with a click of the remote.

The most expensive part of all that are the hard drives. I've been adding 16TB WD Reds at $800 a go, but if I'm honest, that's mostly for media storage. My cameras are all on motion detect so, even at full resolution, they don't need all that much storage.

 

[WitiTune]

I have a reolink 4x8MP NVR POE kit with a 2tb HDD, little bit of work to run the cables but the quality is great, the setup was pretty painless and the app is extremely easy to use on pc and phone, or through the tv (via hdmi) - compared to apps for friends cameras it is a walk in the park

Cost was it was very resonable at $1100 (NZD)

 

[vc commodore]

Yeah, but have you looked at your third-party liability insurance cover if your dog bites some little oxygen thief while they're in the commission of B&Eing your property? It makes little difference anyway as dogs are easily baited and then you're completely defenceless, and even worse, clueless as to what's happening around your property.

I'm also running a Synology NAS with hardwired PoE Hikvision cameras (and I'm only buying 8MP (or better) with audio from now on). The Synology NAS also doubles as cold storage for my PC backups, media, etc., and as my Plex server. (It will do a hundred other things too, like web page hosting, internal mail server, etc. but I don't need any of that.)

All the cameras are on a unique dedicated network (sharing the same switch but using a different subnet and VLAN) and can only see the Synology NAS (which also acts as a time server for the cameras). The cameras can't reach the internet at all, which was why the yanks were having a big hissy fit over Hikvision products. If they used half a brain and setup their systems properly it's not an issue.

I absolutely hate anything to do with cloud storage, or monthly subscriptions for third-party monitoring, or even having to create an account on somebody's webpage and hand-over all your personal information just so you can use a product which you bought and paid for! So I was on a mission to do everything locally.

I get alerts and access the camera feeds/recordings on my phone via the second LAN port of the NAS, I also have the DScam apps on all my SmartTVs so I can monitor any/all of the feeds throughout the house with a click of the remote.

The most expensive part of all that are the hard drives. I've been adding 16TB WD Reds at $800 a go, but if I'm honest, that's mostly for media storage. My cameras are all on motion detect so, even at full resolution, they don't need all that much storage.

Providing a person has access to your front door, even via a door bell on a gate at the front of your property, you aren't liable for anything if a dog bites a person on your property.....

 

[Smitty]

Yeah, but have you looked at your third-party liability insurance cover if your dog bites some little oxygen thief while they're in the commission of B&Eing your property? It makes little difference anyway as dogs are easily baited and then you're completely defenceless, and even worse, clueless as to what's happening around your property.

I'm also running a Synology NAS with hardwired PoE Hikvision cameras (and I'm only buying 8MP (or better) with audio from now on). The Synology NAS also doubles as cold storage for my PC backups, media, etc., and as my Plex server. (It will do a hundred other things too, like web page hosting, internal mail server, etc. but I don't need any of that.)

All the cameras are on a unique dedicated network (sharing the same switch but using a different subnet and VLAN) and can only see the Synology NAS (which also acts as a time server for the cameras). The cameras can't reach the internet at all, which was why the yanks were having a big hissy fit over Hikvision products. If they used half a brain and setup their systems properly it's not an issue.

I absolutely hate anything to do with cloud storage, or monthly subscriptions for third-party monitoring, or even having to create an account on somebody's webpage and hand-over all your personal information just so you can use a product which you bought and paid for! So I was on a mission to do everything locally.

I get alerts and access the camera feeds/recordings on my phone via the second LAN port of the NAS, I also have the DScam apps on all my SmartTVs so I can monitor any/all of the feeds throughout the house with a click of the remote.

The most expensive part of all that are the hard drives. I've been adding 16TB WD Reds at $800 a go, but if I'm honest, that's mostly for media storage. My cameras are all on motion detect so, even at full resolution, they don't need all that much storage.

FECK.... !
what are you guys protecting? wanting to keep watch over?
FORT KNOX?

For that sort of effort... why not a razor wire fence, electrified of course

 

[Skylarking]

On a somewhat related topic, on the NVR systems, the smarts are in the actual cameras (and not so much in the NVR).

Strangely, the Swann NVRs do regularly check for firmware updates. The NVR also has a ‘check for firmware updates’ function built in. But those firmware updates are only for the NVR itself (and not the cameras).

The firmware updates for the cameras needs to be done manually… (a) check the Swann website and compare the version number with the firmware in the cameras (via the NVR). And, (b) if it needs updating, download the camera firmware file/s on to a usb stick (using a computer). (c) plug the usb into the NVR then go to each individual camera and do a firmware update (via the NVR system).

The Swann system is very clunky and has some strange quirks. For example, sometimes one has to go in and out of menus to save changes. Some changes save automatically, and other setting have to be explicitly saved - it the save function might be on the previous menu.

I do whole heartedly agree - don’t go with battery powered wireless cameras. Definitely go wired if you can. Cameras will use considerable energy so the idea of battery, or rechargeable, cameras will be quite a chore (but they may be the only option in some circumstances?).

Despite the effort involved doing updates manually, I still hate and have always hated auto update. I hate it almost as much as I hate the lack of update documents/change notes and control over my own purchases

I’ve got a Swann 8 port NVR & 6 Swann POE cameras and have had discussions with Swann re their lack of GPL compliance, lack of ONVIF support (it’s gotten better in some newer products), UI quirks and lack of updates associated with their ignorant denials of the security vulnerabilities that plague their older products…

i couldn‘t recommend them after my old experiences but maybe they’ve gotten better since I purchased and their products reflect this? Maybe?

Me I won’t support lack of updates which the manufacturer hopes will translate to equipment upgrades because of their lack of support… It’s something I won’t tolerate so I’ll not buy Swann again... my next upgrade will be with another vendor...

 

[Immortality]

For that sort of effort... why not a razor wire fence, electrified of course

That's not legal unfortunately.