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So by reading that article the 57D Sandown car became the 44D car at Bathurst a few weeks later and would've been driven by Bond and Roberts to Victory ? is this correct ? and if so why wasn't it marketed as a Bathurst winner which would make it even more desirable ?
Not sure.
 

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I must admit it's all a bit confusing as below is a photo of the 69 Bathurst winning car sporting another number on it's door being driven at Lakeside's ATCC event in 1970.

Seems that each event supplied new numbers to run under. I understand that the Bathurst event generally supplied sequential numbers for each class which weren't the regular numbers used during the ATCC. (Australian Touring Car Championship)

HDT entered 3 HT GTS 350 Monaro's in the 1969 event and all 3 finished, respectfully 1st, 3rd and 6th place, but which car was which is all a bit up in the air it seems.

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All in all I'm a tad surprised that the 57D car only fetched $715,000 when it was touted to realize over 1 million. From that I very much thought that at the end of lot 275 the car didn't actually sell because it didn't reach it's reserve of 1 million. I watched the auction, but without any sound so I didn't quite know what the true outcome was, also the internet page didn't actually say sold, or referred, just highest bid. Anyway I'm sure we'll get to know who actually bought the car as it can't leave the country and it's a pretty small world as far as collectible cars is concerned.

The question arises now, where are the other 2 cars ? I think one of them was owned by Peter Champion or was that a tribute car as many that Peter had were ?
 

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Well the plot thickens..............................

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The bottom 3 lines seems to tell another story that the car was sold in late 1969 and left the HDT system and thus it couldn't be the same car as shown in the previous post as that car was at Lakeside in 1970 and it was suggested that was the 1969 Bathurst winner.

Personally that "Canberra Times" article must be incorrect and just another case of beat up journalism.

I will say it's amazing that the 57D vehicle has been owned by the same owner (Tony Connelly Ex GMH) for all this time. Normally cars like this have a long line of owners during their lifespan. Everyone is simply a custodian for a period of time until ownership passes on I always say.
 
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Here's bit more to the story,

HT GTS HDT a - Copy.jpg


Tony Roberts and Colin Bond car (44D) at Bathurst. Check out the Number plate.

HT GTS HDT g - Copy.jpg



Interesting isn't it, maybe the Canberra Times have got it right ? more food for thought.
 

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The question arises now, where are the other 2 cars ? I think one of them was owned by Peter Champion or was that a tribute car as many that Peter had were ?

I'm suspecting a certain trucking magnate.
 

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Well the plot thickens..............................

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The bottom 3 lines seems to tell another story that the car was sold in late 1969 and left the HDT system and thus it couldn't be the same car as shown in the previous post as that car was at Lakeside in 1970 and it was suggested that was the 1969 Bathurst winner.

Personally that "Canberra Times" article must be incorrect and just another case of beat up journalism.

I will say it's amazing that the 57D vehicle has been owned by the same owner (Tony Connelly Ex GMH) for all this time. Normally cars like this have a long line of owners during their lifespan. Everyone is simply a custodian for a period of time until ownership passes on I always say.
This article from Car Advice seems to answer the mysteries.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/861370/million-dollar-holden-monaro-sells-for-715000/
 

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Honestly that article alludes to 3 cars, one effectively written off (57D) while the other 2 raced at Bathurst and finished on the podium, but infact there were actually 3 HDT cars, that being 42, 43 & 44 entered in the 1969 race and all 3 finished. They were all HT GTS 350's.

So I'm not sure how accurate that story in Car Advice really is. Also the livery on some of the photos I've put up on here and that Vic KNK-777 number plate has something to do with it all I feel. I'm sure they didn't simply swap the allocated road going number plates between cars as these vehicles already had VIN numbers along with body numbers. Back then these cars were driven to the tracks and not moved via a Transporter as we know of today.

I wonder what's happened to the car numbered 42D from the 69 Bathurst race ? as only two seem to survive, the other being the Brock / West car which went to auction last year and sold for $455,000. Wonder who owns that now ?



So many question with too many conflicting answers I feel.
 

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This is not to do with this Monaro, but in this, just released .....


......... there is an article about the Holden Dealer Racing Team (not HDT) and it mentions that the original HK Monaros were run with different liveries, numbers, and number plates. It doesn't answer any questions, just gives an insight on how things were done, or mixed up, back when.
Interesting read. ( Well, I thought so.)
 

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This is not to do with this Monaro, but in this, just released .....


......... there is an article about the Holden Dealer Racing Team (not HDT) and it mentions that the original HK Monaros were run with different liveries, numbers, and number plates. It doesn't answer any questions, just gives an insight on how things were done, or mixed up, back when.
Interesting read. ( Well, I thought so.)
I loved that old Green Machine XE Falcon. Well up until Dicky J decided to take a detour through the trees
 

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I loved that old Green Machine XE Falcon. Well up until Dicky J decided to take a detour through the trees
And I've disliked DJ ever since his pre-race interview the next day complaining about the performance of the replacement car he was sitting in that had been donated by another team and painted in his colours which was still wet when the interviewer leaned on the car.

Ungrateful b4st4rd.
 

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And I've disliked DJ ever since his pre-race interview the next day complaining about the performance of the replacement car he was sitting in that had been donated by another team and painted in his colours which was still wet when the interviewer leaned on the car.

Ungrateful b4st4rd.
Cut him some slack.... lol of course he’s a natural complainer... he’s a Ford driver AND A QUEENSLANDER LOL
 

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And I've disliked DJ ever since his pre-race interview the next day complaining about the performance of the replacement car he was sitting in that had been donated by another team and painted in his colours which was still wet when the interviewer leaned on the car.

Ungrateful b4st4rd.
I remember that interview,
And I thought exactly the same,
Thought how rude of DJ to say what he said.
If it wasn't for the donated car, he would of been sitting on his a___ in the Pits.
Watching the Commodores circulate and win.
 

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I'm not sure which DJ I dislike the most. The happy one or the sad one.
 

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Last time I was at Dick Johnsons race HQ, he actually had a door of the XE in his show room, complete with the leaves.

Useless info, but info none the less
 

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Mystery Solved, the 57D car was hastily rebuilt by Holden after the Sandown crash and sold to Tony Connolly (a GMH Employee), meanwhile Firth built another car to replace it and be the third car at the 69 Great Race event.

Seems though that this car had been previously sold by Lloyds, something they failed to reveal this time round.

Read the following story, it pretty much explains it all.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/20...aler-team-1969-monaro-gts-sells-for-aus500000

Basically, a failed auction again price wise, but then nothing surprises me the way Auction Houses drum up the hype to raise their commission.
 
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