Is anyone considering the NG commodore after their VF?

[Zeke Topanaga]

Don't agree with you on this one Calaber. To me the Commodore is a large (or even medium/large) RWD performance oriented sedan. The incoming model is simply not that. I'm probably slap band in the middle of the target demographic for the outgoing Commodore buyer. 30/40ish something who probably has kids or at least needs the space of the outgoing model but also wants something a bit fast and enjoys the RWD 'drivers' experience.

Incoming model is probably down on space which probably isn't a deal breaker but the rest is of no inspiration what so ever.

TBH, if they took the essence of the commodore, plonked it on the Omega platform and built it in NA (or wherever), I'd be fine with that. I'd even be fine without a V8 if a quality turbo 6 or alternative was offered. Sadly the turbo 4 is just a waste of time and calling it 'performance' is just an insult.

Call it blinkered if you like but to me, they should have retired the Commodore badge, ran with the original Insignia moniker and started from scratch pitching to the Mazda 6, Camry and Mondeo buyers.

I would think that without the commodore badge they would loose sales for sure, I think they would of done their homework. it's the concept of the new evolved commodore that will do the work to sell.

 

[Forg]

I would think that without the commodore badge they would loose sales for sure, I think they would of done their homework. it's the concept of the new evolved commodore that will do the work to sell.

They'll have done a lot of workshops & forums & marketing surveys on the quiet, IMHO.
Probably one of those annoying 'phone calls at dinner time.
Whether the answer to all that homework is the correct answer is a different matter (eg. maybe the cocaine fields of Afghanistan were having a low-quality season when all that marketing homework was done by those marketing consultants?).

 

[Zeke Topanaga]

They'll have done a lot of workshops & forums & marketing surveys on the quiet, IMHO.
Probably one of those annoying 'phone calls at dinner time.
Whether the answer to all that homework is the correct answer is a different matter (eg. maybe the cocaine fields of Afghanistan were having a low-quality season when all that marketing homework was done by those marketing consultants?).

I agree it should not really be called a commodore.
Should of called it a Holden Special or called it some new age trendy name,
The Holden Awesome
Holden Casino
Holden Marxist
Holden Asia
Holden Royal
Holden Fleetwood.

 

[Forg]

Give it a name that shows they're keeping up with the times ... yes, go back to eCommodore!

 

[zulu]

I have driven both 4 cycl fwd and v6 AWD ZB Commodore. I'm not affiliated with Holden. Both great cars to drive with the V6 being the obvious pick. Who knows I might get one in the future. I love and gonna hang on to my my 2017 ssvr as the new ZB just doesn't compare if you like a v8.
There really isn't much else on the market for me as far as bang for buck like the ssv Redline.

 

[HemiMagic]

https://mm.carsales.com.au/carsales/adclick/FCID=402824

Holy s*#t. I assumed imported cars would jump in price once Tojo and Holden closed but that is CRAZY.

 

[zulu]

https://mm.carsales.com.au/carsales/adclick/FCID=402824

Holy s*#t. I assumed imported cars would jump in price once Tojo and Holden closed but that is CRAZY.

Lol you would think something like that should be priced well under $50k

 

[Forg]

^ Why?
Just because it has a KIA badge?
A KIA badge is probably worth at least as much as (maybe more than) a Holden badge in the marketplace these days, and it's no more expensive than a V8 Calais (which is pretty spot-on for performance & which it's got more toys than).

It certainly looks like better value than the new Commodore does ...no, I'll revise that, it doesn't look any worse value (although we won't know 'til the ZB is released).

 

[zulu]

^ Not an educated guess on price point from me. Yes it's because of the Kia badge. I'm still a Holden fan.

 

[mpower]

I agree it should not really be called a commodore.
Should of called it a Holden Special or called it some new age trendy name,
The Holden Awesome
Holden Casino
Holden Marxist
Holden Asia
Holden Royal
Holden Fleetwood.

Holden Specials already exist - don't you even!

Should be badged Daewoo - GM should can the Holden brand because well Holden is dead. #notmyholden