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lower my car or buy audio equipment???

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yeh ok its probably like around 40Wrms per channel, so say around 70-80Wrms bridged. well yes it could drive a sub but it sort of like saying could an excel do as burn out? yes it could with cooking oil and 4 guys lifting up the back! thats amp isn't really worth much effort, go for something from the jaycar range, cheap with heaps of grrrunt!!!
 

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Garfa I hope you don't take this the wrong way because I'm greatful for any help I can get, but are you certain that it will ony give 70-80Wrms bridged.

After reading 12Voltking's post on 'bridging amps' he calculated that a 50watt by 2 channel amp could put out 200watts if bridged. Attached some of his post below. Sorry if I'm wrong but I'm just confused how a 50watt amp can put out 200watts bridged, yet a 70 watt amp cannot??? After using the calculations below and substituting numbers I got 280watts......

""Imagine you have a two-channel amp that puts out 50 watts into each channel when driven into a load of 4 ohms per channel. Since we know P and Z, we can plug these numbers back into our power equation and find V. 50 = (V^2)/4 -> V = sqrt(200). So, we're seeing a voltage of 14.1 volts across each channel.

Now, imagine we bridge this amp, and use it to push just one of those 4 ohms loads. When the amp is bridged, the voltage is doubled. Since we know the voltage (2*14.1 volts), and the impedance (4 ohms), we can calculate power. Remember that P = V*V/Z. That means P = (28.2^2)/4, which is 198.1 watts. It should be clear by now that the new power is approximately 200 watts - quadruple the power of a single, unbridged channel!""
 

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I when I bought my Calais the stacker was playing up. Had a problem with the laser. So I bought a second hand one off ebay that had been serviced. BIG MISTAKE! It had a problem with the motor and only worked for a week. Plus the stock cassette head unit ate a tape and would not eject it. All I had left was the radio. I bit the bullet and bought a Pioneer DEH-P4850 for only $245, and the sound quality is so much better than the Eurovox. You also have a lot of special functions in the head unit if you have a sub. I had a Pioneer in my last car and could never fault it.
 

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Hey all!
Just saw this headunit on ebay.
NEW 2006 JVC KD-DV6205 DVD/VCD/CD/MP3/WMA PLAYER
It's going for $389.00.
I was looking at buying PIONEER DEH-P6850MP player for $375, but I then noticed that JVC was only $14more and thought it might be a damn good buy.

Has anyone had any problems with JVC before?
Also is it worth buying it, if I won't be buying the screen for a few months???

Can't wait to get a new h/u:w00t:
 

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I threw a JVC KDG-615 into my car almost a year ago now (with a 12 disk MP3/CD changer in the boot) and the only problem it's had has been with crappy wiring that the previous owner left hidden in the dash. It's a damn nice unit.
 

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ruso said:
Garfa I hope you don't take this the wrong way because I'm greatful for any help I can get, but are you certain that it will ony give 70-80Wrms bridged.

After reading 12Voltking's post on 'bridging amps' he calculated that a 50watt by 2 channel amp could put out 200watts if bridged. Attached some of his post below. Sorry if I'm wrong but I'm just confused how a 50watt amp can put out 200watts bridged, yet a 70 watt amp cannot??? After using the calculations below and substituting numbers I got 280watts......

""Imagine you have a two-channel amp that puts out 50 watts into each channel when driven into a load of 4 ohms per channel. Since we know P and Z, we can plug these numbers back into our power equation and find V. 50 = (V^2)/4 -> V = sqrt(200). So, we're seeing a voltage of 14.1 volts across each channel.

Now, imagine we bridge this amp, and use it to push just one of those 4 ohms loads. When the amp is bridged, the voltage is doubled. Since we know the voltage (2*14.1 volts), and the impedance (4 ohms), we can calculate power. Remember that P = V*V/Z. That means P = (28.2^2)/4, which is 198.1 watts. It should be clear by now that the new power is approximately 200 watts - quadruple the power of a single, unbridged channel!""
well look at it this way:
the amp is 200Wmax and has a 15A fuse.
so lets now say at full power it would be drawing 12Amps (not likely but...) and the voltage at the amp is 14V. p=vi so power=12x14 so 168Wrms, not the amp is arount 50-55%efficent. i would be saying more like 50% but... half of 168=is 84Wrms if the amp is 50% efficent and if its 55% then its more like 92Wrms total power.
now if the voltage at the amp is 13.8V then the power is a bit less (-5wrms)
so yep i stand by what i said that the amp is around 85-90Wrms bridged and 45-50Wrms per channel.
thats why you need to be careful about amps sometimes, if it only has a 15 amp fuse and quotes 200W then something is a bit wrong.
btw i dodnt take anyoffence about you saying i might be wrong because i know you are still getting a good grasp of car audio ;) .
hell 12volt helped me a heap!
 

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cheers garfa
 

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I was hoping I could get some advice or feed back on which if the following headunits I should purchase:

1. New 2006 JVC KD-DV6205 DVD/VCD/CD/MP3/WMA PLAYER
SILVER and BLACK IN COLOR! $389 + $45delivery

2. NEW 2006 PIONEER DEH-P6850MP CD/WMA/MP3 PLAYER $375 + $40delivery

I will be purchasing one of the 2 on ebay within the week from this seller; Tessitura-Entertainment - cannot wait. But I can't decide weather to go with the Pioneer h/u, or JVC because it also plays DVD's. I know it sounds stupid asking which to buy when the JVC one does play DVD as well, but I have no plan of buying a screen now because of my budget. Just want a decent h/u to run my stock speakers in my 02 vx acclaim, and if the pioneer h/u will do this more efficiently or has more benefits apart from the fact that JVC plays DVDs; then I would get it because I'll be listening to music way more then I'll be wathcing a movie while driving. What do you think????
 

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it was too much work to find the s/n ratio on the units, but i would probably go with the jvc because of
dvd support
5Volt preouts (can be a good or bad factor)
24bit dac
but really its probably much of a ,muchness, go withthe one thats easier to use and seems to sound better.
 
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