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(Question) Suspension: King Superlows and KYB Excel-G

Discussion in 'VN - VP Holden Commodore (1988 - 1993)' started by 8rody, Apr 18, 2009.

  1. 8rody

    8rody New Member

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    Quick question for all here, what is the ride quality like on a V6 VN with King Superlows and KYB Excel-G's ?

    (short story)

    I had a stocker VN V6.
    Shocks were blown, so I replaced front and rear with King Springs LOW and KYB Excel-G shocks (non short ones).

    My strut tops were stuffed, so I needed to replace those and I wasnt happy with the ride height (35mm drop my-arse). The ride quality was rather sloppy. so I replaced the front and rear springs with King Springs Superlow.
    and sold the King Low springs.

    This restored the car to a reasonable height, however the ride quality is still pretty poor.

    I bought shortened KYB-Excell G shocks for the rear, and I've noticed a significant improvement, as the rear is no where as sloppy.

    alas the front is still sloppy and bouncy as hell.

    QUESTION: Is matching King Superlow shocks with KYB shortened Excel-G's imperative?
    Because i've been most disappointed with the ride quality as of yet.


    And for the money blown during this ordeal, i could have bought quite decent suspension. Augh!
     
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    new ones for the front and check all your rubbers.
     
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    Forgot to mention, front end has all Nolothane bushels.
    And the front have new shocks, they just aren't short throw.

    I've done some reading and though short-throw shocks are best practice, I had no idea it was imperative to overcome shitty ride quality?

    *scratches head*
     
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    VrWagz1 The Wagon on Wheels..

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    Try a bigger sway bar id say if you still think its rolling too much.
     
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    Its not the swaybar, i get front tyre lift @ 60ks around a round-about. :p

    It feels like the shocks are stuffed. Which is infuriating because they are brand new.
    Just a really sloppy front end.
     
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    I can only deduce that normal shocks and lowered springs are a big no-no.
    Or that KYB Excel-G's are utter garbage.
     
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    Maybe you should just slow down on roundabouts?

    I suggest you talk to one of the sponsors here: Greg from GSL Rallysport. He sell KYB and Monroe and always recommends the KYB even though they're cheaper.
     
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    Scooter79, this was during a test-'fang' in a industrial area in newcastle late at night. I do not condone wreckless driving.

    I know, and from what I hear KYB are fairly decent.
    I'm going to keep trying to work out what it is, i'll post the answer to this thread once.. i work it out.
    Something doesn't feel right.
     
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    I still run Lovells in the front of mine as I was never happy with the King Springs fronts as they were softer than the Lovells. I went from Monroe to KYB shocks last time I changed shocks and was quite impressed with the improvement.
     
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    immortality Moderator Staff Member

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    with the front struts fully extended are the springs captured? i run KYB exel-G's with "brand" ? SSL and don't have any issues
     
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    Yes they are completely captured. I was told by AutoOne that there were shorter shocks available for the front, but i've not been able to find any factual information about this.

    I've got race-car camber at the moment, but i'm waiting till i replace the rack and pinion till I get an alignment.

    I'll have to get the suspension geometry soughed before I cry wolf.
    Just frustrating is all. Never had this sloppiness before in any car i've replaced the suspension and bushels. Ugh.

    Thanks guys
     

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