Supercharged Alloytec Or Turbo

[06vzcalais]

I Was Just After an opinion i was chattin to a fellow commodore owner the other night and we got into a bit of an argument after a slab or two about supercharging or turbocharging my 6er i have been in discusion with C.A.P.A retailer about the in valley 440kw intercooled kit serious power for around 15g but i need to upgrade a few other internals with tht sort of power figures i think.. can anyone inform me of what internals i need to upgrade and whether id be beter off spending that sort of money on a turbo set up??

 

[plymouth_hemi_69]

spending that amount on a turbo car would get you 1 hell of a car i tell ya go turbo aye as the s/c's from what im told run out of breath if you spend some on the internals (although stock internals can handle a fair bit) then you will have a crazy 11 sec car.correct me if im wrong

 

[impulsive]

doesnt the manifold make it hard for a valley mount? there was something i remember about this cant remember what is was but i'll get back to ya, i know its something that makes alloytecs hard to valley mount..

 

[monaro327]

if your going for big power i upgrade rods and pistons. drop the compression back to 9:1

 

[impulsive]

i thought the alloytecs had forged internals already? i know they can handle a fair bit of boost and power, would this all be neccessary, cuz if he's gonna open the motor its gonna cost big..

 

[monaro327]

the stock internals are forged but the rods are still pretty small and the compression is 10.2 stock. i'd go forged H beams and dished pistons to drop the cr to 9:1 if you want to venture over 12psi for a daily driver.

as i said the rods may be forged but all the pictures i've seen there still not alot of steel in them. i think the fact that the only alloytec to ever venture over 12psi to 15psi disappeared very fast confirms this. they seem to handle high rpms fine though.

 

[06vzcalais]

Crank Driven T Trim Charger reverse rotation unit Intercooled 440Kw Vz Only $8995 for the kit $495 for the piggyback a resonable front half of the zorst with Quad Outlaw cats $900 and for some reason they charging me a shitload of labour anyone know what sort of price id be looking at for stronger internals as sugested before eg forged H beams and dished pistons

 

[andyman]

Crank Driven T Trim Charger reverse rotation unit Intercooled 440Kw Vz Only $8995 for the kit $495 for the piggyback a resonable front half of the zorst with Quad Outlaw cats $900 and for some reason they charging me a shitload of labour anyone know what sort of price id be looking at for stronger internals as sugested before eg forged H beams and dished pistons

stronger internals on an alloytec at present = expensive

 

[06vzcalais]

stronger internals on an alloytec at present = expensive

not what i wanted to hear *Cry* i guess ill just smash some form of boost into it whether it be turbo or supercharger i had a turbo on my 4 pot screamer scoobydoo that had "Bush Rego" wasnt to happy with the whole lag thing i think the turbo in question may of been the problem rather than turbos in whole but i love the supercharger whine and they are run at reasonably low boost im guessing to get 440 kw out of a turbo i need to be pushing about 15psi am i not correct and a charger same power for 10-12psi would this make any diff at all

 

[impulsive]

go the raptor supercharger, they go spastic on alloytecs, just wish i was allowed to get one..