well i got no idea all i know is my calais now which is standard doesnt do too bad wheras against exec, berlina etc i dont know which is faster or lighter just the fact that calais is fully optioned (lurury some may say) model of the vr class then you have statesman which i have to say is a class too itself. thats just my point of view though, i dont state at all that i know or anything its just my view thats all. who knows i may be way off but it'd be good to hear everyone elses response to there point of view. :thumbsup: