What is your view on smoking? (and cigarette warning labels)

[chooky1980]

the growers get stuff all.the government makes a killing on tobacco pardon the pun

 

[soop]

Oh jesus.

CSP, you're making a fool of yourself.

Go and look up what a drug dependancy is. Its not a will power thing. The BODY builds up a dependacy on a drug, when the BODY doesn't get that drug it self destructs. Which IS physically painful.

Heroine is a good example of that, the pain recovering addicts go through isn't a figment of their imagination.
I've no sypmathy for somone stupid enough to use the drug in the first place, but that doesn't make the illness anyless real.

You're a very short sighted, ignorant and arrogant person.

 

[Grennan]

I like the fact that because CSP thinks something is easy, its easy for everyone else.

I cant count the amount of times my mother has said im quitting. Tried to go cold turkey, tried the patches the gum everything. The first sign of trouble, stress of boredom, there goes a packet of smokes. The addiction is so embedded into them it just doesnt go away.

 

[chooky1980]

anyone want me to save them a seat on the bus?
i'm driving to CSPville i hear it's perfect there!




better leave my smokes at home!

 

[HamaTime™]

Oh jesus.

CSP, you're making a fool of yourself.

Go and look up what a drug dependancy is. Its not a will power thing. The BODY builds up a dependacy on a drug, when the BODY doesn't get that drug it self destructs. Which IS physically painful.

Heroine is a good example of that, the pain recovering addicts go through isn't a figment of their imagination.
I've no sypmathy for somone stupid enough to use the drug in the first place, but that doesn't make the illness anyless real.

You're a very short sighted, ignorant and arrogant person.

+400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Couldn't have said that better myself mate.

I'd give you rep for it, but won't let me, gave you rep a couple of days ago lol.

 

[Immortality]

It is that easy. I don't do anything I don't want to do.

Nobody is forcing you to pick up a cigarette, light it, and smoke it.

Proof that it's that easy is from others who have simply chosen to not smoke. All that's needed is a big enough desire to stop.

i think we can conclusively say that this is incorrect. it is well proved that different drugs effect people in different ways. tobacco companies inflate the levels of nicotine in smokes to increase addiction levels. for someone who is susceptible to the influence to nicotine it would be very addictive. so although some people can quite with will power alone i certainly wouldn't say that it is possible for all people who smoke

 

[CSP]

CSP, you're making a fool of yourself.

*shurg* OK. If you say so.

Go and look up what a drug dependancy is. Its not a will power thing. The BODY builds up a dependacy on a drug, when the BODY doesn't get that drug it self destructs. Which IS physically painful.

Heroine is a good example of that, the pain recovering addicts go through isn't a figment of their imagination.
I've no sypmathy for somone stupid enough to use the drug in the first place, but that doesn't make the illness anyless real.

So it's painful? So what? Doesn't change the fact that it's a choice. Can't handle the pain? Well then don't quit. Simple. Better still, don't START!

You're a very short sighted, ignorant and arrogant person.

*shurg* OK. If you say so.

 

[CSP]

i think we can conclusively say that this is incorrect.

So some smokers aren't mentally or physically in control of their own actions and some are? LOL! Yeah, right...

 

[LOWFLYR]

CSP, mate you sound like a knob! take the blinkers off and see we are not living in a perfect world here! i would suggest perhaps you need to open the mind a touch

i am a smoker yes, am i going to quit? no. that's my choice if someone doesn't like it then stiff ****! however, at no time will i smoke around kids, in my home or my car.

my benefits are the enjoyment of it. especially at work (rotating shifts) it is a good excuse to get out of the factory for a short time away from the heat, noise and STRESSES placed on us from our management. and hey it MAY hurt me in the long run but what do you do? wrap yourself up in cotton wool and never go outside again? fark that!

 

[Darren_L]

Personally the cigarette warning ads, gory photos on packets etc don't bother me either way. I honestly don't believe it's going to stop existing moderate to heavy, long term smokers, but it may be enough to discourage potentially new smokers, or might even be enough to motivate light smokers to give it up. It's not so much a case of the government wanting to take away your rights, more a case of them trying to prevent people from inflicting harm on themselves, much in the same way they release confronting anti-speeding, anti-fatigue, anti-drink driving ad campaigns.

Most existing smokers aren't going to take any notice of gory pictures or missing brand names on packets, so why does it matter if they are on the packet or not ?
And maybe if the scare campaigns do bother smokers, then maybe those campaigns are doing their job. The government isn't taking away your choice, if they did they would simply ban smoking. However they are attempting to make it blatantly obvious how harmful smoking is. Maybe it is exaggurated in some cases, but if it stops someone taking up smoking, then that is one less tabacco addict that the health system & community is going to need to support in the future.

the difference between alcohol and cigarettes, is alcohol isn't harmful at all (in fact in some cases beneficial) if consumed in moderation.
on the other hand, EVERY cigarette smoked is detrimental to health. Any claimed possible health 'benefit' of smoking is far outweighed by the substantially higher health risks it is responsible for both for the smoker and anyone within the vicinity of the smoker. I might add, claiming that smoking reduces stress etc is like saying alcohol reduces stress. Addicts of any kind, will feel less stressed when they take the drug they are addicted to. However if they weren't addicted to the drug in the first place, it wouldn't be a relaxant. And after a good few minutes googling the 'benefits of smoking', I've yet to find any credible source that claims benefits such as short/long term memory increase.... If someone can find me a credible source to back those claims then I am happy to consider it.