Yeah thanks panda. I now know there is people on this forum with common sense.
As for you, you've provided no evidence for your case other than "read this website which I trust implicitly" and "read the bible for it contains all the answers". At the moment I've got the shits with this whole argument because there are so many idiots posting irrelevant crap and your side is getting distracted by it and only seem interested in responding to those idiots by saying that their behaviour is indicative of the entire science side of the debate. Either knuckle down and provide a serious argument or bugger off and leave the discussion as you've threatened to do at least twice in this thread.
If you're too busy to get properly involved in the debate that's cool, no-one should think any less of you for that, I know I wont, but the way you're going at the moment is just making you look like a dodgy politician. mr. Partay had some interesting, if somewhat innacurate stuff to say earlier, I'd like to see some more of that kinda effort and enthusiasm ya know?
EDIT: Well you've at least properly identified the players now. Kudos for that.