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Extractors are a great mod,
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Ultimate alloytec failure...
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BEST THREAD EVER! LOL
Now go buy a V8 haha
Seriously though, the alloytech motor is already a fairly high strung piece of machinery to meet the modern day emissions standards and expectations of customers while retain fuel economy. In short, the potential just isn't there to make massive power gains (without boost). The good old pushrod dinosaur V8 however being as low tech as they come pretty much has much more potential and cubic capacity on it's side when it comes to performance development.
Now go buy a V8 haha
Seriously though, the alloytech motor is already a fairly high strung piece of machinery to meet the modern day emissions standards and expectations of customers while retain fuel economy. In short, the potential just isn't there to make massive power gains (without boost). The good old pushrod dinosaur V8 however being as low tech as they come pretty much has much more potential and cubic capacity on it's side when it comes to performance development.
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To the OP.
I still don't quite understand why you're so disappointed with the small gains you've made. In my opinion, there's not too much on your list of mods that are actually going to result in a higher power output or send you down the 1/4 much faster so this outcome should have been expected...
In short, if this was your intent, I think you could have made a few better decisions on what parts you turned the dollars into to gain your desired result.
Cheers
I still don't quite understand why you're so disappointed with the small gains you've made. In my opinion, there's not too much on your list of mods that are actually going to result in a higher power output or send you down the 1/4 much faster so this outcome should have been expected...
In short, if this was your intent, I think you could have made a few better decisions on what parts you turned the dollars into to gain your desired result.
Cheers
Dz811
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It seems i didnt explain some things quite enough.
My apologies.
The clutch was replaced because after the initial tune and cai it slowly started to slip (stupid holden clutch), and i hated the dual-mass setup.
The coils, injectors and oxygen sensors were replaced because they were all 200,000 kays old... and i figured new ones would HAVE to make even a small difference.... The spark plugs were only 40,000 old, but it would be stupid not to replace them with everything else coming off.
Aside from the "not guaranteed extra power" mods, at least the cpr6, underdrive pulley, cai, catback AND vcm tune would have to net to at least a small gain? That's all i'm saying here people.
I've asked plenty about putting extractors on, but I never bothered because everybody I asked said for an extra 3-4kw it's not worth the $1000+ for extractros and hi-flows. And seriously, would it make my position any better? It's still not gonig to make up for the lack of gain so far.
The only point im making (as I have now painfully learned). Is that there's very little gain to be had out of these motors without a huge outlay. And I would assume that most people on this forum would agree, so if you find yourself in the position I was when i bought one..... SAVE UP AND TRADE IT FOR A V8...
My apologies.
The clutch was replaced because after the initial tune and cai it slowly started to slip (stupid holden clutch), and i hated the dual-mass setup.
The coils, injectors and oxygen sensors were replaced because they were all 200,000 kays old... and i figured new ones would HAVE to make even a small difference.... The spark plugs were only 40,000 old, but it would be stupid not to replace them with everything else coming off.
Aside from the "not guaranteed extra power" mods, at least the cpr6, underdrive pulley, cai, catback AND vcm tune would have to net to at least a small gain? That's all i'm saying here people.
I've asked plenty about putting extractors on, but I never bothered because everybody I asked said for an extra 3-4kw it's not worth the $1000+ for extractros and hi-flows. And seriously, would it make my position any better? It's still not gonig to make up for the lack of gain so far.
The only point im making (as I have now painfully learned). Is that there's very little gain to be had out of these motors without a huge outlay. And I would assume that most people on this forum would agree, so if you find yourself in the position I was when i bought one..... SAVE UP AND TRADE IT FOR A V8...
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The underdrive by itself should have netted around 7rwkw, CPR6 is advertised as 15rwkw, CAI probably 2-3rw but the tune should have done the most. Expect to 15-20rw if done correctly. To only have 120rwkw after all that... sounds like the tuning is wrong. Could have been a bad batch of fuel also? Few other guys on here with VZ's have 150rw on there cars. Something definetly sounds wrong. Being 200,000km old engine probably doesn't help though?
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This 1 mods will give you some gains down the quarter mile.
Take the spare tyre out.
Take the spare tyre out.
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unless anyone is willing to spend money on a car, then it wont go faster... pipe dreams and hopeful wishes...
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I don't understand the reason for spending bulk cash (10k?) to make a V6 faster.
Here is an alternative:
1. Sell your sv6 for 11k.
2. Use the sale price + 10k in mods to buy a VY/VZ SS. Hell, you might even snag a HSV for this price.
3. Enjoy.
Here is an alternative:
1. Sell your sv6 for 11k.
2. Use the sale price + 10k in mods to buy a VY/VZ SS. Hell, you might even snag a HSV for this price.
3. Enjoy.
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It doesn't matter if you are a P plater or not.
The best approach is to drive a stock v6 for a few years... Save money instead of spending it on the car... Purchase something enjoyable when you are off P Plates...
The best approach is to drive a stock v6 for a few years... Save money instead of spending it on the car... Purchase something enjoyable when you are off P Plates...
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Its very easy to forget that the P plater laws are different in the rest of Australia. As I have said before you can drive anything you want on your L and P plates. If you have the cash you could be practicing to drive on your L plates in a V12 with twin superchargers, with a full exhaust, and every mod you can dream of.