Are running good quality speakers without a amp bad ?

[Astranomical]

Keep the volume down and you'll probably be fine. However you *really* want an amp. I upgraded the system in my car last week...new HU and front speakers. (Pioneer components) Running off the HU, the speakers worked fine, though if I turned the volume up too far I'd experience clipping/distortion (BAD BAD BAD). I put in an amp shortly after, and they're now like completely different speakers. Much, much, much better. It'll cost you more money, and it'll be more hassle (if doing the install yourself), but if you're spending money on decent speakers...its definitely worth it.

 

[StoneX]

The stock ones out of mine are 4 ohm.

Really? Sorry, I was regurgitating what I'd heard from a knowledgeable installer. I guess he isn't all that knowledgeable :banstick:

The rest of my post is correct though

 

[MAG00]

Get real speakers not Alpine garbage for a start. Amp is always the best way.

Don't bother, it's a friggen epidemic. If they want to sheep with everyone else that owns the crap then let them.

 

[StoneX]

They're not crap... I'd rather be a normal sheep than an MEA sheep

 

[MAG00]

IDC about your hate of MEA/MEA members, I rarely even go on it and when I do I just look at the classifieds.

I don't really understand the categorization, are you trying to say that anyone who chooses to not buy Alpine/Pioneer/Fusion/etc. are MEA members?

I wouldn't, I would call them well researched, well educated. They have obviously done some research to find the other brands, as they are not readily available at Autobahnz. Who gives a crap where they found the information/recommendations for the brands, at least they are willing to try something out of the norm, to take a risk and go against the uneducated crowd. I would much rather take advice from people who understand the acoustics of a car, the components of a quality install, as opposed to yobbos that doesn't even know what a crossover is.

In undeadened, unsealed doors in the same car (VY commodore), my Morel Tempos sounded better than my mates Type R splits, he agreed. Compared to other options in the same price range, they are below average (my definition of crap).

BOTTOM LINE: People buy the mainstream brands because they are readily available and because they don't know any differently.

The epidemic continues. Let them be.

 

[Maxmadmat]

BOTTOM LINE: People buy the mainstream brands because they are readily available and because they don't know any differently.

Totally with you there Magoo. Do the research people.

 

[hakhawk]

Really? Sorry, I was regurgitating what I'd heard from a knowledgeable installer. I guess he isn't all that knowledgeable :banstick:

The rest of my post is correct though

ive removed 2ohm speakers from ve commodores before, so he is right to some degree. there may have been a change in years/models.

 

[The 10th Doctor]

ive removed 2ohm speakers from ve commodores before, so he is right to some degree. there may have been a change in years/models.

Yeah, from what I gather reading the VE Speakers thread (http://forums.justcommodores.com.au...6/159709-upgrading-ve-stock-speakers-how.html) it's a mixed bag, so the audio installer still gets partial credit

 

[StoneX]

IDC about your hate of MEA/MEA members, I rarely even go on it and when I do I just look at the classifieds.

I don't really understand the categorization, are you trying to say that anyone who chooses to not buy Alpine/Pioneer/Fusion/etc. are MEA members?

I wouldn't, I would call them well researched, well educated. They have obviously done some research to find the other brands, as they are not readily available at Autobahnz. Who gives a crap where they found the information/recommendations for the brands, at least they are willing to try something out of the norm, to take a risk and go against the uneducated crowd. I would much rather take advice from people who understand the acoustics of a car, the components of a quality install, as opposed to yobbos that doesn't even know what a crossover is.

In undeadened, unsealed doors in the same car (VY commodore), my Morel Tempos sounded better than my mates Type R splits, he agreed. Compared to other options in the same price range, they are below average (my definition of crap).

BOTTOM LINE: People buy the mainstream brands because they are readily available and because they don't know any differently.

The epidemic continues. Let them be.

I don't have hate for MEA members (I've been one for 11 years), I'm just sick of seeing the same "exotic" brands being spammed all the time and other decent brands being regarded as garbage because they're mainstream.

I was really just overreacting like you did about Alpine. I thought my wink emoticon would have given away that I was being light-hearted. They're not crap, simple as that :thumbsup:

 

[vongy10]

You guys are missing the point. It's all about value for money, but I agree with MAG00.

Honestly Alpine put more money into their ads than their products.