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Buick V6- questions about a few bolt ons.

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It's fine. Difference is 3mm. Let's just call it... Room for future head port matching.

You'll loose more low down torque due to a hot day than you will over 1/8" in the primaries.

Don't stress too much. As long as the pipes are pointed in the right direction it'll flow fine. I've done and seen some nasty exhaust stuff... There's gains and losses to be had, but it takes a fair bit of bad design to kill power.
Thanks for the explanation. When you say loose down low, are you referring to stock factory exhaust manifolds or over Pacemaker header with 1.5 primary?
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Thanks for the explanation. When you say loose down low, are you referring to stock factory exhaust manifolds or over Pacemaker header with 1.5 primary?
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Over the pacemakers.

Stock manifolds are bad for back pressure and flow. Any short or long tubular extractor will be an improvement.

The stock exhaust port is... Around 38mm from memory... 36mm?

Anyway, if you match the exhaust port diameter exactly with your exhaust primaries and run the primaries about 2 foot or so long before they hit the 3 into 1 merge collector, the exhaust pulses maintain as much velocity as possible when they hit the collector, which is fantastic for scavenging! And great for engine efficiency. This is what the pacemakers are designed for.

But, I you have a stock valve, stock exhaust ports and (let's say a big) 1 3/4" primary, there's such a space/volume increase as the exhaust pulse moves into the primary that it expands, looses energy and slows down. Making for an ever so slightly more lethargic exhaust flow. (Big valves and head porting will fix this and make the car want to live up in the 5000+ RPM range)

You'll gain performance with basically every different extractor on the market tho.

1 1/2" pacemakers are great for cars with minimal mods and still work well on cars with a few bigger upgrades like mild cams etc.

1 5/8" primaries will have ever so slightly less low end torque than those pacemakers. But there's some top end HP potential there as the slightly large primary will work better with higher volumes of exhaust gas.
 

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Over the pacemakers.

Stock manifolds are bad for back pressure and flow. Any short or long tubular extractor will be an improvement.

The stock exhaust port is... Around 38mm from memory... 36mm?

Anyway, if you match the exhaust port diameter exactly with your exhaust primaries and run the primaries about 2 foot or so long before they hit the 3 into 1 merge collector, the exhaust pulses maintain as much velocity as possible when they hit the collector, which is fantastic for scavenging! And great for engine efficiency. This is what the pacemakers are designed for.

But, I you have a stock valve, stock exhaust ports and (let's say a big) 1 3/4" primary, there's such a space/volume increase as the exhaust pulse moves into the primary that it expands, looses energy and slows down. Making for an ever so slightly more lethargic exhaust flow. (Big valves and head porting will fix this and make the car want to live up in the 5000+ RPM range)

You'll gain performance with basically every different extractor on the market tho.

1 1/2" pacemakers are great for cars with minimal mods and still work well on cars with a few bigger upgrades like mild cams etc.

1 5/8" primaries will have ever so slightly less low end torque than those pacemakers. But there's some top end HP potential there as the slightly large primary will work better with higher volumes of exhaust gas.
Thank you very much! Well explained. Is it worth worrying about press bent V mandrel bent for the headers? Cheers
 

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Not really.

Engine Masters did a test on a dyno where they bashed the crap out of the pipes on the dyno and it didn't seem to make much, if any difference at all.
 

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Thanks for all the help with my questions about headers, and just questions more generally! I never knew that there was quite a bit of science (primary size, mandrel bends, etc) behind headers!
 

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its not going to make a huge difference its an n/a v6 from the 1980s.
just put whats cheap on it
 
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