[Ecotec] Cam Crank Voltage

[Draimond]

What Voltage should the Cam and Crank sensors be supplied?

Haltech have 12V up on their Buick/Ecotec info page.

Posts on here reference testing these sensors and seeing 5V.

 

[Draimond]

I'm going to assume it gets supplied 5V.

It wouldn't get a 12V power supply and then output a 5V signal to the PCM....... would it? Hahaha

 

[Draimond]

Just spoke to Haltech and the bloke I spoke to said that's exactly how the sensors work, they take a 12V input and output a 0-5V signal for the ECU.
Power from the fuse box in the engine bay can be unshielded, signal and signal ground wires should be shielded.

I still don't understand why a signal ground wire needs to be shielded when its shield gets spliced into the signal grounds at the ECU anyway.

I need aspirin...

 

[Draimond]

Would anybody be able to test the cam or crank sensor for me on their car?

Should be ground, power and 0 to 5 volt on the cam. Ground, power plus two sets of 0 to 5 volt on the crank.

I would assume you can test the by turning the ignition on and unplugging one of the sensors, then probing the connectors pins with a voltmeter.

The cam and crank sensors voltage input is shared, the same wire is spliced into a single output on the DFI module. So test whichever is easiest to get to for you.

Basically I just need to know if you're getting ground, 12 volt and 5 volt or ground and a bunch of 5 volt.

I think the only thing I can do at home would be to throw the DFI module on the bench with a battery and see if I can get it powered up out of the car as I've already chopped up my wiring harness and fuse box.

 

[07GTS]

top diagram here may help its VS - VY

Testing CAM Angle Sensors (CAM)

What Technicians need to know about on car testing of CAM angle position sensors and related circuitry.

premierautotrade.com.au

 

[Draimond]

That diagram refers to that pin as being "battery supply from DFI" which could suggest it's 12-14V input.

 

[07GTS]

yea sounds like the battery 12-14v supply for it, is the reference wire 5v when sensor disconnected ? most of the time that can be a 5v from ecu and the sensor just needs power/earth and then it just pulls that 5v down to zero when it passes teeth

 

[Immortality]

I think it's 12 volt in as the supply but the signal is 0-5volt out.

 

[Draimond]

yea sounds like the battery 12-14v supply for it, is the reference wire 5v when sensor disconnected ? most of the time that can be a 5v from ecu and the sensor just needs power/earth and then it just pulls that 5v down to zero when it passes teeth

I don't think it's 5v disconnected. I believe the sensors has a resistor that pulls the 12 volt down to 5....

I'm going to run with Haltech's advice that it takes 12 volt in. It's going to be a massive job if it's wrong, because my 12 volt is in the engine bay and my 5 volt supply is from the ECU and they need to be shielded wires.

 

[Immortality]

The CAS is a hall effect sensor x2