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I really really don't like them. However, I do believe a V12 Vantage might just change my opinion. Anyone?
Problem with retro fitting them to a VE would be the delay in the auto transmission, ie the time between when you hit the stick to when the trans decides to change gear. If you're going to have paddles, they have to be precise. Not just fast gear changes but minimal delay aswell. The 458 has nailed it.
Problem with retro fitting them to a VE would be the delay in the auto transmission, ie the time between when you hit the stick to when the trans decides to change gear. If you're going to have paddles, they have to be precise. Not just fast gear changes but minimal delay aswell. The 458 has nailed it.
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On an SMG yes. On an auto no!
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The ones on VZ calais are rubbish to use. Its more like giving the gearbox a suggestion of what gear you would like to be in, then it will make up its own mind when it wants to change.
On a proper car with a gearbox designed for it, then it might be a different story
On a proper car with a gearbox designed for it, then it might be a different story
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From memory the VZs had buttons on the back of the steering wheel rather than paddles... Possibly a worse option.
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As an auto box, there's nothing wrong with it at all. But neither the box itself nor the software running it is up to scratch if you're looking for a good 'manual mode'. It's still a case of buying an auto of you want an auto or a manual if you want a manual.
The idea behind paddle shifts is for fast, accurate gear changes whilst being able to keep both hands on the wheel. For that you need something in the vicinity of porche's PDK box. Even the DSG Volkswagen use is ok (ie mk 6 golf... The mk5 not so much) but unfortunately the commodore auto is a dedicated self-shifter with a bit of a suggestion box for the manual option. To be effective, the gearbox needs to almost pre-empt when you're going to pull one of the paddles and swap cogs immediately rather than waiting until it's ready. The whole idea is to put you in charge, otherwise what's the point?
Arguably, I'm taking things here to the Nth degree... But it's just my opinion.
The idea behind paddle shifts is for fast, accurate gear changes whilst being able to keep both hands on the wheel. For that you need something in the vicinity of porche's PDK box. Even the DSG Volkswagen use is ok (ie mk 6 golf... The mk5 not so much) but unfortunately the commodore auto is a dedicated self-shifter with a bit of a suggestion box for the manual option. To be effective, the gearbox needs to almost pre-empt when you're going to pull one of the paddles and swap cogs immediately rather than waiting until it's ready. The whole idea is to put you in charge, otherwise what's the point?
Arguably, I'm taking things here to the Nth degree... But it's just my opinion.
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tinsnips VW's dsg box is the best gearbox and has been for a long time in an affordable car. the pdk is a rung above but any dual clutch transmission would be fantastic! holden need to move ahead and stop worrying about what ford is doing and start moving with the rest of the world. in any case flappy paddles are fun in any car aslong as they offer a proper manual mode. done properly they can be very effective on a track aswell.