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Goodbye... Holden :(

Commo Baba

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Hands up who's not surprised by this.

Once the factory closed and the lies started about an 'ongoing future presence' this was the obvious next step.
 

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If they are pulling out of RHD, where does that leave corvette, which was to be sold under the Holden brand?
G.M. have said they intend to supply specialist vehicles such as the Corvette and Camaro. Perhaps the Camaro will be made in right had drive.
 

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Hands up who's not surprised by this.

Once the factory closed and the lies started about an 'ongoing future presence' this was the obvious next step.
 

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Perhaps the Camaro will be made in right had drive.
Thought GM stated no more right hand drives will be made/designed as they are too expensive. So GMSV will do conversions... so they will be too expensive o_O

Suspect GM will ultimately be out of business :rolleyes:
 

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A few more questions answered:


Straight of the Presses from Holden

General Motors will be retiring the Holden brand in Australia and New Zealand.
HOLDEN·MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2020·5 MINUTES

We encourage our followers and customers to please read the following statement.
With a heavy heart, Holden announced today that General Motors will be retiring the Holden brand in Australia and New Zealand. This announcement will be felt deeply by the entire Holden family, our customers and our fans.

We will immediately begin working with our dealer partners across Australia and New Zealand to implement an orderly transition, including support for our existing customers.
Holden will continue to support customers in the following ways:
• Honour all existing warranties and guarantees
• Honour all free scheduled servicing offers
• Ongoing call centre support
• Provide servicing and spare parts for at least 10 years, through national aftersales networks in Australia and New Zealand
• Recalls or safety-related issues if they arise

GM has taken this difficult decision after an exhaustive analysis of the investment required for Holden to be competitive for the long term in Australia’s and New Zealand’s new car markets. Regrettably, this assessment determined such an investment could not meet GM’s investment thresholds, including delivering an appropriate return.
Factors weighing against further investment in Holden included: the highly fragmented right-hand-drive domestic markets; the economics to support growing the brand; and delivering an appropriate return on investment.
More broadly is the issue of scale. The global consolidation of the automotive industry has made it increasingly challenging to support a brand and a business that operates in only two markets, which represent less than one per cent of the global industry.

This decision has not been taken lightly, especially considering the iconic status of the Holden brand and the contribution it has made not only to GM, but to the development of the economies of Australia and New Zealand.
It impacts all aspects of the Holden business, including the wind-down of the National Sales Company, GM Holden Engineering, GM Design Australia, Holden Financial Services and Maven Australia.
We are commencing work with our dealer partners on timing to cease sales of new vehicles, as well as transitioning dealerships to authorised service outlets.

Customer Questions

Where can I get my Holden serviced?
Holden will establish a national aftersales network to support existing customers for at least the next 10 years. All current Holden dealers will be offered the opportunity to transition to Holden authorised service outlets.

Will you honour my warranty?
Yes. Holden will continue to honour all existing warranties.

For how long will Holden provide spare parts?
Holden will provide existing Holden customers aftersales support for at least 10 years, including warranty, service, spare parts and any required recall or field actions.

How far will I need to travel to get my car serviced in future?
Holden will establish a national aftersales network. All current Holden dealers will be offered the opportunity to transition to Holden authorised service outlets.

What happens if there is a vehicle recall?
As required, Holden and its aftersales network will also continue to handle any recalls or safety-related issues if they arise, working with the appropriate governmental agencies.

I just bought a Holden, can I return it or get compensation?
We stand by our products and Holden owners will continue to be supported by a national aftersales network for at least 10 years. Customers can be assured that Holden will honour all warranties and servicing agreements, as well as providing spare parts, repair, service and any required recall or field actions.

Can I still buy a new Holden?
Yes, Holden Dealerships still have a range of new, demonstrator and used vehicles available for sale. If you are interested, you should contact your local Dealer while stock lasts.
General Questions

When will Holden close?
We are committed to looking after existing Holden customers – and our plan is to provide aftersales support for at least 10 years. We will work closely with our dealers and customers around the appropriate timing to cease sales in Australia and New Zealand.

What parts of the Holden operation are impacted by this decision?
The National Sales Company; Design, Engineering, Maven, Holden Financial Services. We will retain a team to support our aftersales operation.

Wouldn’t it have been better to close Holden when local manufacturing ended?
We believed at the time that Holden could continue as a full-line importer.

What happens to Lang Lang Proving Ground?
We will explore options around the Lang Lang Proving Ground.

What happens to HSV?
We plan to focus our growth strategies in these markets on the specialty vehicles business and plan to immediately begin work with our partner on that focus.

What happens to Holden’s collection of historic vehicles, vehicles of national significance?
We will preserve key heritage vehicles and are working through plans with GM and local partners and institutions.

Is Corvette still coming to Australia and New Zealand?
We will work through this and share information in the coming months.

What is the future of Holden in Supercar racing?
We will begin discussions with the organisers of Supercars and Red Bull Holden Racing Team. We will update you on these discussions at the appropriate time.

Will Holden continue to sponsor Red Bull Holden Racing Team Racing?
We are aware of our commitment and we will work through with Red Bull Holden Racing Team the implications of this decision.

If, after reading this information you still have questions, we encourage you to contact us further via direct message. Our customer care hours are Monday – Friday: 8am – 7pm AEST.
Please be conscious that due to a high volume of messages, it may take our team a little longer to respond, but we will endeavour to respond to every direct message.
 

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At the risk of being tarred and feathered, I have said it before and I will say it again, the current ZB Commodore is the best Commodore ever sold. Anyone who say's it's not a real Commodore has either not driven one or is just being a subjective fanboy. And your sentiment is exactly the reason why GM has closed shop here. If you don't buy the products, don't expect the store to remain open.

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Price of wages and greedy CEO along with cost of utilities pushed them off shore, to many taxes and regulations Like ( Climate Change tax)
Besides all that commodore sales in the past 5 years are on decline only just under six thousand commodores sold last year. People just haven't got the money in this country to spend 40-60k for a new car.. They are feeling insecure of holding a job and the cost of living is making them broke so what money they have they holding onto it instead of helping out the economy.

Well for once I have to agree with Big T, reading between the lines of what he's written is a message and it screams that our standard of living is just way too high. It's not just the car industry but every part of manufacturing in this over priced country along with the USA and the UK. Isn't it amazing that these 3 countries which all claim themselves as world leaders are actually falling way behind the 8 ball while China and many other previous 3rd world countries are steaming on ahead.................at our expense I might add.

We need to take a good long hard look at ourselves and ask the question.................where are we going to be in 20 odd years time ?
 

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GM had the option of providing Holden with extra goodies to sell, but deliberately starved them of new vehicles and places to sell them.
Um, this is tin foil hat territory here, the above was not the discussion in GM's boardroom. GM is a business, and if the cost of bringing a product to a particular market and the projected sales from that product are not assessed to be worth the while, why would they bring it in? It's not a niche player, it's not playing in the "one car sale a month" ultra-luxury marque business.

Have a look at the supposed "goodies" you are referring to, there's an RHD Camaro on C@rs@les at the moment that is priced at $178G. That is just absurd. No American would pay that for a Camaro, and if an Australian does, I would say there would not be plenty of them. Operating costs AND project sales for GM in Australia as they currently stand are just not economically feasible. GM does not have aspirations to be Mercedes Benz or BMW, it's not playing or manufacturing in that space (even though luxury marque sales are up 25%, which is a completely separate discussion).

I wish GM and all its management the best with their Chinese enterprises.
GM sells cars. What is wrong with partnering with someone they think will achieve this?
 
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