JC Political Thread - For All Things Political Part 2

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

I found an article examining 250 "active shooter" incidents by the FBI since 2000. It says that the chances of getting killed by a semi-auto weapon as opposed to a repeater is the same (44%), however, you are twice as likely to be killed by a semi-auto. So the numbers say that half the amount of shooters killed the same amount of people using semi-auto as repeater. This tells me semi-autos are twice as dangerous in the hands of someone intending to kill.

Semi-automatic rifles kill twice as many as other guns, study finds

Researchers who examined FBI data on nearly 250 "active shooter" assaults also found that the chances of dying, if shot, were the same no matter the weapon.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[shane_3800]

I found an article examining 250 "active shooter" incidents by the FBI since 2000. It says that the chances of getting killed by a semi-auto weapon as opposed to a repeater is the same (44%), however, you are twice as likely to be killed by a semi-auto. So the numbers say that half the amount of shooters killed the same amount of people using semi-auto as repeater. This tells me semi-autos are twice as dangerous in the hands of someone intending to kill.

http://[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com...ill-twice-many-other-guns-study-finds-n908536

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That sounds like a reasonable statistic. So maybe they should be twice as hard to obtain and twice the background checks.

 

[Pollushon]

It's all just semantics. Back when I had my ruger and browning 22 semi's the other guys would laugh at the little pop guns. As I look in the Cafe today, the ruger specifically could lay waste to most of the folk there in seconds with the 25 round mag. Funnily enough after the buy back and moving to a Winchester 22 magnum, lever action, I still think I could do plenty of damage, swinging on that lever. It was fine for farm duties though, just as fine as the semi's

So you can argue what constitutes what as much as you like but in the right hands all three weapons could be devastating. In the end keeping it just wasn't worth the hassle, so nowadays I just stick to my bow

 

[shane_3800]

It's all just semantics. Back when I had my ruger and browning 22 semi's the other guys would laugh at the little pop guns. As I look in the Cafe today, the ruger specifically could lay waste to most of the folk there in seconds with the 25 round mag. Funnily enough after the buy back and moving to a Winchester 22 magnum, lever action, I still think I could do plenty of damage, swinging on that lever. It was fine for farm duties though, just as fine as the semi's

So you can argue what constitutes what as much as you like but in the right hands all three weapons could be devastating. In the end keeping it just wasn't worth the hassle, so nowadays I just stick to my bow

Yep the cops make it extra hard to own a gun so people don't buy them. And people wonder why US gun owners get up in arms about gun regulation.

Oh and if 22lr was so dangerous maybe we have to move off using 308 in the styer for our ADF and move to 22lr.

 

[shane_3800]

Assault knees are dangerous lets knee cap the entire world so no man has to die at tip of a femur again.

 

[Pollushon]

It's not the cops. It's lawmakers. Good, they should be hard to get. At no point in this debate was it ever about not having guns it's about making guns less accessible and owners more accountable. I don't do farm work anymore so the only reason for a gun is pleasure. Self defence is a mugs game and a piss poor excuse

 

[Pollushon]

Assault knees are dangerous lets knee cap the entire world so no man has to die at tip of a femur again.

And this is why no one takes you seriously and 'bullies' you

 

[Immortality]

Yep the cops make it extra hard to own a gun so people don't buy them. And people wonder why US gun owners get up in arms about gun regulation.

Oh and if 22lr was so dangerous maybe we have to move off using 308 in the styer for our ADF and move to 22lr.

Really, our NZ Styer's were 5.56

On the 300 meter range at Whangaparaoa army camp the holes in the targets boards had profile shaped holes because it is very windy on the Peninsula. Just imagine how well a .22 would perform in those scenario's!

As I mentioned earlier, up until recently you could by your AR with your groceries or a new pair of jocks at Walmart. buying a long rifle in the US isn't hard at all.

 

[Skydrol]

Fwd to 2:16

“Thank you George Floyd for sacrificing your life for justice."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1384626072046784513

 

[Immortality]

I'm not knocking the hard work cops do but what happened in this case was just plain wrong and this is the correct verdict (considering it all started over the alleged offence of using counterfeit currency).

Maybe it will change the way the police forces operate or maybe it won't, time will tell.