The Ford BA XR6 was a better car than the ZB

[aprentice]

I'll take a Kia over an Opel any day of the week in terms of current styling and build quality.

Hell the AU is a better looking car than a ZB.

haters gonna hate

 

[stooge]

haters gonna hate

very true, lucky he never owned a commodore because he would be devastated to find out the commodore is originally an "opel"

 

[losh1971]

 

[stooge]

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too right they used to make them for "men"

 

[Fu Manchu]

The Kia Sorrento and Santa Fe are better cars. Fight me.

 

[Fu Manchu]

very true, lucky he never owned a commodore because he would be devastated to find out the commodore is originally an "opel"

Well. There's truth in it and there's not.
Holden took the Opel Rekord and said It's a bit **** but I reckon we can do something with it. Actually they took most of their cars from Europe or UK and made them into something far better.

That's where the ZB's pedigree fell short.

 

[figjam]

That's where the ZB's pedigree fell short.

Wot if .......... they built the ZB in Elizabeth, RWD with a V8 option.
But it wouldn't matter because GM would have shut down Holden operations this year anyway, that was the deal, provided the Fed Govt stumped up more cash, and we would be outraged and disappointed now rather than 5 years ago.

 

[J_D 2.0]

very true, lucky he never owned a commodore because he would be devastated to find out the commodore is originally an "opel"

The only “real“ Commodore’s are the VE and VF. All the others had Opel underpinnings.

 

[stooge]

Well. There's truth in it and there's not.
Holden took the Opel Rekord and said It's a bit **** but I reckon we can do something with it. Actually they took most of their cars from Europe or UK and made them into something far better.

they used stuff from both the rekord E and commodore C for the vb commodore in 78 but the actual name "commodore" was sold on opel vehicles a decade before it was ever used here starting with the opel commodore A in 67.

the first commodores were literally the same thing as the zb, imported but at least assembled here, played around with to suit the conditions and a holden badge slapped on it but they were still opels.
even branding like omega and senator were pulled from old opel models but we should expect that from a multinational company like gm because it is easier to use what you have rather then create and trademark new.

when the commodore was first introduced here it was considered "your wifes car" or not a real holden to the enthusiasts

the zb will always be that imported insignia and they should have just left the name as insignia but some genius thought commodore would work lol

at its core the v platform was an opel thing until 2007

General Motors V platform (RWD) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[losh1971]

Torana's had Opel underpinnings too, but nothing like the ZB, meh.