The Lockdown Thread

[Derekthetree]

To be honest, I had a quick look at trying to find a per capita graph of police and hospital staff numbers but nada… Seems very difficult stuff to find and probably needs $ and FOI application… I have a sneaking suspicion that state governments simply haven’t kept up with population growth (via immigration cause we locals don’t breed much)…

Yeah, it’s not the same as sacking staff but it has the same effect in that we don’t have the resources needed for the population size we have and expect to have… Its an insidious way of screwing yne public out of a decent Medicare system. It’s just another one of the government fcukups along with closing what was a world leading infectious disease hospital in Melbourne.

And then COVID hits…

But, why does the doctor in the linked article state “at this stage”? Obviously it’s a round table thought bubble that some seem to have abs may come to fruition at some stage…

It’s already the case down under that one doesn’t really want to be a patient in a overcrowded COVID overflowing hospital. Elective stuff is on hold, again, but what about those that have no choice because of car crashes, industrial accidents of other clumsiness, heart attack, or other acute non COVID illness… Their predicament can require hospital admission…

No one wants to go into hospital with a broken leg, catch COVID and die… But it seems that’s the path we are heading towards under the guise of learning to live with it and surfing the wave… All because we couldn’t close international boarders tight, couldn’t quarantine arrivals, couldn’t isolate the sick and now have given up with gold class track and trace… Seems holidays (=income) are much more important that health (=cost)…

What this pandemic seems to be showing us all is that national security down under is a farce. We can’t make shite or piss (urea) in this country if masks PPE and trucking problems are any indication. And we give away what we dig out of the ground cause according to mining companies only their skilled staff in Singapore (where it’s 3% company tax?) can negotiate price on their commodities. Really seems all sides of government are bought and paid for by big business which simply don’t pay their fair share of tax while middle class is raped while the wealthy consult their tax lawyers… Most blame the unemployed… It’s simply the case that not enough money is spent on what needs to be spent by our government as should be e ident to all when profitable wealthy companies got job keeper and the government spends funds on pork barreling. Such is criminal in my opinion…

Our state and federal governments have a lot to answer for as this pandemic has shown…

Guess I’m in a foul mood today with all the crap that is ongoing (with too many people I know getting sick, though luckily only one has died. Sadly there is no end in sight and the solution is “open up and those that will die will die, fcuk ‘em” Suck lack of compassion towards protecting our elderly yet the world gets angry about expelling an elitist antivaxer who hits a ball for a rather good living…

Grrr… it’s one of those days…

The problem is we were told hit 80/90%, you'll open up. It happened to coincide with Omicron arriving.

Most estimates seem to put Omicron severity at 20% or less of Delta. But its 15 times more transmissible. (your mileage may vary, all number recollecting from some covid update)

So chances of getting very ill (especially young people) is lower than ever. But maths (0.2x15 still > 1 ) means you will get higher hospitalisation numbers.

Then the knock on of everyone getting pinged as close contacts and staying at home for 7 days at once.
Every country is finding it. You've reduced deaths, but the population shuts up shop, so services diminish.
UK had its pingdemic last year. We are just catching up.

Its too late now, its out and spreading. Decisions made by a certain state kicked it off, others have opened up because the spread would happen anyway, and why lose out on that xmas tourist dollar.

Fortress WA is protected by 1000s of km of desert and ocean, but its coming!

 

[Skylarking]

The problem is we were told hit 80/90%, you'll open up. It happened to coincide with Omicron arriving.

Most estimates seem to put Omicron severity at 20% or less of Delta. But its 15 times more transmissible. (your mileage may vary, all number recollecting from some covid update)

So chances of getting very ill (especially young people) is lower than ever. But maths (0.2x15 still > 1 ) means you will get higher hospitalisation numbers.

Then the knock on of everyone getting pinged as close contacts and staying at home for 7 days at once.
Every country is finding it. You've reduced deaths, but the population shuts up shop, so services diminish.
UK had its pingdemic last year. We are just catching up.

Its too late now, its out and spreading. Decisions made by a certain state kicked it off, others have opened up because the spread would happen anyway, and why lose out on that xmas tourist dollar.

Fortress WA is protected by 1000s of km of desert and ocean, but its coming!

It wasn’t a forgone conclusion that we couldn’t control viral spread as we live on an island. We could have built airport and quarantine in the middle of the desert to cater for needed travel but our governments can’t organise head jobs in brothels..

Doing such would been expensive and dampened international tourism and the balance of trade bullshite of you buy my stuff I buy your stuff… so our government threw us to the viral wolves because they are lapdogs that have no vision or understanding and have to answer to their multinational masters (and not us)…

As to less seriousness of omicron, have you read any studies emanating from a country that has had little immunisation as I feel that the vaccine has coloured the picture and the “less serious” angle is simply a convenient untruth we are being fed. Last I read fromWHO was such can’t yet be said…

PS, we were all told early on, before the vaccine, that 80% maybe 70% vaccination rates were enough for heard immunity. Now at 93% we’re are suffering and the vaccinated feel they are ok to catch COVID so these people have become a vector for viral spread. Vacccinated are still dying but that seems ok now our economy is supposedly better (yet the shelves at my supermarket are empty)…

So far we have no real vaccine and zero herd immunity possibilities and the current vaccine is the only protection of sorts… but it’s not the solution on its own… And I haven’t found and reasonably digestible medical publications that indicating how frequent crossover infection occurs and what level of illness that can bring… for alpha, delta, omicron, omega whatever…

We’ve got a long way to go and many more dead to bury…

PS: WA is now seeing cases because they are still part of Australia and people can still drive/fly over… And don’t they open on 5th Feb so then i5 will come with a vengeance.

Trunk drivers are another vector of spread… Really, don’t know why trucks couldnt be unhitched at the boarders so locals take them trailer to their next destination… Not enough profit doing such for the trucking magnates, most likely…

 

[VS 5.0]

My missus is working tonight. They are short staffed, people are coming sick as crap. Funny is, this crap did not happen in 2020. In 2021, the shots got pushed, now we are on the 2 + Boost... now people are sick in a state that we had hardly none.

As I said before, the Vaxxxed are making all of us sick. I know, will get crap for what I just said. Just hold the insults, just give it a little time before shooting from the hip. Lets see what those docs have in store.

Coz Omicron.....the vaccine evader.

 

[greenacc]

To be honest, I had a quick look at trying to find a per capita graph of police and hospital staff numbers but nada… Seems very difficult stuff to find and probably needs $ and FOI application… I have a sneaking suspicion that state governments simply haven’t kept up with population growth (via immigration cause we locals don’t breed much)…

Yeah, it’s not the same as sacking staff but it has the same effect in that we don’t have the resources needed for the population size we have and expect to have… Its an insidious way of screwing yne public out of a decent Medicare system. It’s just another one of the government fcukups along with closing what was a world leading infectious disease hospital in Melbourne.

And then COVID hits…

But, why does the doctor in the linked article state “at this stage”? Obviously it’s a round table thought bubble that some seem to have abs may come to fruition at some stage…

It’s already the case down under that one doesn’t really want to be a patient in a overcrowded COVID overflowing hospital. Elective stuff is on hold, again, but what about those that have no choice because of car crashes, industrial accidents of other clumsiness, heart attack, or other acute non COVID illness… Their predicament can require hospital admission…

No one wants to go into hospital with a broken leg, catch COVID and die… But it seems that’s the path we are heading towards under the guise of learning to live with it and surfing the wave… All because we couldn’t close international boarders tight, couldn’t quarantine arrivals, couldn’t isolate the sick and now have given up with gold class track and trace… Seems holidays (=income) are much more important that health (=cost)…

What this pandemic seems to be showing us all is that national security down under is a farce. We can’t make shite or piss (urea) in this country if masks PPE and trucking problems are any indication. And we give away what we dig out of the ground cause according to mining companies only their skilled staff in Singapore (where it’s 3% company tax?) can negotiate price on their commodities. Really seems all sides of government are bought and paid for by big business which simply don’t pay their fair share of tax while middle class is raped while the wealthy consult their tax lawyers… Most blame the unemployed… It’s simply the case that not enough money is spent on what needs to be spent by our government as should be e ident to all when profitable wealthy companies got job keeper and the government spends funds on pork barreling. Such is criminal in my opinion…

Our state and federal governments have a lot to answer for as this pandemic has shown…

Guess I’m in a foul mood today with all the crap that is ongoing (with too many people I know getting sick, though luckily only one has died. Sadly there is no end in sight and the solution is “open up and those that will die will die, fcuk ‘em” Suck lack of compassion towards protecting our elderly yet the world gets angry about expelling an elitist antivaxer who hits a ball for a rather good living…

Grrr… it’s one of those days…

Oh dear, c'mon man you really need to update that thinking. Turn that frown upside down and so on.
Catch COVID and die? What's the death rate of Covid now? Hmmm going by very ruff numbers 1 in a thousand or less and most of those are well past retirement age.
So the chance of someone having a workplace accident landing them in hospital where they catch COVID and die, is........?

 

[Skydrol]

Coz Omicron.....the vaccine evader.

Give it time, the Omicron is the Vaxxx creation. 1st shot, we got Delta, 2nd shot we got Epsilon, here come the booster, Omicron came next. What was the new shît, Deltacrome? Back in 2020 we got shît/nothing/zilch/nada. Jabs roll out we got all this shît along with a shît load of excuses of why the big Pharma cannot get their shît together. Get the 4th shot to fix this mess, book your 5th, another strain is going to roll out. On top of that, the return to normalcy carrot, do not forget about that one along with the passport and cell phone track.

Folks, you are getting played.

 

[VS 5.0]

So the chance of someone having a workplace accident landing them in hospital where they catch COVID and die, is........?

Or, someone having a workplace accident landing them in hospital where they can't get adequate treatment and die.

 

[JRNZER]

Any source?

This guy here

 

[VS 5.0]

This guy here

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Gotta get those economic units doing economic unit things.

 

[ephect]

I bearly weigh in on this, because I cbf..

But since a heap of ppl are now catching it, those now have natural immunity. Add the Vax to the mix and more resilience

Nobody wants to catch it, and worst case die or suffer long covid. Why do they not start reporting more studies on this?

 

[Derekthetree]

This guy here

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Oh ok so it didn't happen.