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I know there are plenty of posts on the subject but I was wondering if anyone has actually fixed the shuddering drama that seems to be prone with t5s
Its not confined to commodores....on the web ,the shuddering seems to plague many different cars with t5s.
I am prepared to change anything in the setup if I can just get rid of this shuddering.
On a hill from a standing start where you have to slip it it is damn near undriveable.
When I first got the car it was perfect not a shudder...nothing under any load.After a year or so the clutch started to slip when accelerating so I had to change the clutch/throwout and of course had the flywheel machined .The spigot bush had spun in the crank so I got another and belted it in and it seemed tight so I put it all back together with new fork rubbers and it went well no shudders.... I always support the gearbox when attaching it to the bell housing.
I used a clutch industries kit from repco like the old one was .I have never abused the clutch apart from the odd slip on a hill.After some time the clutch pedal action (only when the engine was running) stopped being smooth and it put a sort of vibration through the pedal and in came this shudder but I lived with it until I felt motivated to fix it. Engine mounts are also replaced.
After a while I took it all apart again and replaced the clutch with a excedy one (standard pressure plate) and did the throwout bearing as well and machined the flywheel again (there was no noticeable high spots or discolouring).The spigot had spun again so this time I soaked it in oil for a couple of days and then loctited it into the crank and let it dry so the bond would be perfect.
The old throwout bearing had been doing some pretty good grinding on the fingers of the pressure plate and the plastic inner bore of the throwout bearing that has a small spline on it had worn on one side completely away with some wear also on the bearing retainers surface that it runs against.I asked about it and I was told it wasnt too bad so I left the retainer like it was and smoothed out the wear so it wouldnt catch and lubed it sparingly and put everything back together.The bloke I bought it from told me the clutch industries clutch kits are not very good and that explained why I had this shudder It went good for a while...no shudder...no vibration... no noise ...perfect.
After a while the shudder returned, vibration although not as bad has returned and the shudder seems much more severe when the engine is hot
I have bought a new bearing retainer and steel throwout bearing retainer from mal wood for when it comes apart again.
I have never considered the flywheel face but I am willing to try anything to fix the thing. I have read some of the newer friction surfaces can cause shuddering too.
I was just wondering if anyone else shares these problems and has had any success fixing it?
Its not confined to commodores....on the web ,the shuddering seems to plague many different cars with t5s.
I am prepared to change anything in the setup if I can just get rid of this shuddering.
On a hill from a standing start where you have to slip it it is damn near undriveable.
When I first got the car it was perfect not a shudder...nothing under any load.After a year or so the clutch started to slip when accelerating so I had to change the clutch/throwout and of course had the flywheel machined .The spigot bush had spun in the crank so I got another and belted it in and it seemed tight so I put it all back together with new fork rubbers and it went well no shudders.... I always support the gearbox when attaching it to the bell housing.
I used a clutch industries kit from repco like the old one was .I have never abused the clutch apart from the odd slip on a hill.After some time the clutch pedal action (only when the engine was running) stopped being smooth and it put a sort of vibration through the pedal and in came this shudder but I lived with it until I felt motivated to fix it. Engine mounts are also replaced.
After a while I took it all apart again and replaced the clutch with a excedy one (standard pressure plate) and did the throwout bearing as well and machined the flywheel again (there was no noticeable high spots or discolouring).The spigot had spun again so this time I soaked it in oil for a couple of days and then loctited it into the crank and let it dry so the bond would be perfect.
The old throwout bearing had been doing some pretty good grinding on the fingers of the pressure plate and the plastic inner bore of the throwout bearing that has a small spline on it had worn on one side completely away with some wear also on the bearing retainers surface that it runs against.I asked about it and I was told it wasnt too bad so I left the retainer like it was and smoothed out the wear so it wouldnt catch and lubed it sparingly and put everything back together.The bloke I bought it from told me the clutch industries clutch kits are not very good and that explained why I had this shudder It went good for a while...no shudder...no vibration... no noise ...perfect.
After a while the shudder returned, vibration although not as bad has returned and the shudder seems much more severe when the engine is hot
I have bought a new bearing retainer and steel throwout bearing retainer from mal wood for when it comes apart again.
I have never considered the flywheel face but I am willing to try anything to fix the thing. I have read some of the newer friction surfaces can cause shuddering too.
I was just wondering if anyone else shares these problems and has had any success fixing it?
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