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Won't start for 10 minutes when hot

lepeyrol

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I have a VR Berlina Auto and whenever I stop the car after driving, it will not start again straightaway. I have to wait about 10 minutes and then it will fire again.
I have had the fuel pump replaced as well as the fuel filter to no avail.
What is the problem?:bang:
 

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i had a falcon that did the same thing. it had to do with the cold start sensor have you had it looked at????
 

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Check to see if you have any spark when this happens as it could be the crank angle sensor (CAS).
 

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Sounds like crank error sensor. Check for error codes, you will likely get a 46/47. Do a search on crank angle sensor (CAS). About $55 for part, $100 to fit. Other things can cause it, but 99 times out of 100 it will be CAS. To confirm it is the fault, you can pour cold water on it, to cool it down (near the harmonic balancer). If she fires straight after you do that, CAS.
 

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Thanks to the excellent info on this site, I have checked for error codes and found I had a 48, which is : "Crankshaft Reference Signal Missing".
Looks like I'll have to replace the CAS. Is it a big job? Can I do it myself, not beeing a crash-hot mechanic? I have the Gregory.
Thanks.
 

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In transition from a Magna to a VN S pac
You know, I have the same problem but only after extended trips. It won't even turn over for about an hour, then after waiting it cranks and fires as if a brand new battery was placed in it. I've also been told to check out the coil packs too.
 

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Sounds like the same for you anarky. Check error codes, she will normally give you an error. Coil packs, dfi module, cas and ecu all tie up in the system, so if any of them fault, it can give you similar problems, but, as I said, 99 times out of 100, its going to be the CAS.

As CHANDLC said, if you can afford the $100, definatly get a mechanic, save yourself the trouble. Isnt the easiest job, specialist tools can make it that bit easier.

I remember the first time I had the CAS go, was failing when it was warm too (doesnt always do that). I would stop and get petrol, and car would not start after that. Lucky no one was behind me, so I could push the car back and wait until she would start again. Hadnt had the car all that long and I was thinking it was something to do with the fuel. I was even going to see the gf one day to go out on a day trip, stopped and got flowers and car would not start. Was a hot day too. So get it done soon, it will eventually cause the car to stall while youre driving, and you will suddenly feel the steering and brakes get really really heavy, car will drop speed and you will need to try and hit hazard lights while pulling off to the side hoping theres no speeding cars behind you. Not a nice feeling.
 

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The Gregory says code 48 is "Cam Angle Sensor". So I had a look at it and found that the wiring had been repaired before and 2 wires were broken just near the connector. I soldered them back on, went for a short test drive and... no more code 48! I'll check again in a few days as the wires are a bit short and pulling slightly on the connector.
 
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