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SSV vs E63 AMG ..

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by geo41e, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. geo41e

    geo41e New Member

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    :hmmm:

    did a little F1 red light with one today...
    that thing pulled one and a half car lengths on me by 2nd to 3rd gear lol

    now i'm just wondering...
    if i cammed my car..would i be able to keep up with one / have the same performance ?

    have to admit for a stock car..that thing pulls hard and has an awsome sound track.
    (yes i know...he paid $270,000)

    -Geoff

    btw : anybody here had similar scenarios and came out ontop ?
    that is..eastern creek drags..etc ?
     
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    Need specs of both cars.
    Wouldn't stress on how much he paid for it. Allot of the value in them things comes from the fancy things on the inside as well.
     
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    Yeah I was thinking its probably sold for less then half of that in Europe.
     
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    UFO I Believe

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    2010 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG Price, Specs & More | RSportsCars.com

    according to the above website, the E63 AMG has 525hp, 630Nm, and does 0-100 in 4.5 seconds.

    the ssv has 362hp, 530Nm, and does 0-100 in 5.6 seconds.

    so to answer your question.... no, upgraded cam, tune, exhaust, air intake wont get you what you need to beat the E63. it'll certainly help though!
    a relatively mild supercharged setup (no need for upgraded engine internals) should be enough.
     
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    What's the weight difference like?
     
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    UFO I Believe

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    nothing in it

    1765kg E63, 1777kg SSV
     
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    how the hell can they squeeze that much from power ??
    i mean..take a look at a new HSV LS2 ....6.2L and no where near it...
     
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    acarmody Donati..Whoa Green

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    Because Holden are relying on an engine design that is not hugely different from something 40 years ago, granted its tried and proven but at the end of the day its not state-of-the-art.

    Whereas Mercedes, and by extension AMG, have engines that rely on new and better designs.

    But in comparison, I would WAAAAAAY prefer to do backyard mechanics on the Holden.

    Also, the E63 does 8000rpm, hence why it doesn't have a huge amount more torque, but does have a substantial difference in power.
     
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    WogBoyz 435rkw/590rwhp

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    Thats like 391kw at the engine so would prob be around 330/40 at the wheels, not bad for a standard car
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Because the base cost of the AMG motor to the manufacturer is probalby $35,000 or more whilst the HSV motor is around $2,000 or less.

    Reaper
     
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    haha woops
     
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    wikky ............

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    Blind much?

    Type: Handbuilt AMG V8 introduced on SL63 AMG Roadster
    Displacement: 6.2 liters
    Induction: Naturally aspirated
    Horsepower: 525 bhp
    Torque: 465 lb-ft. (630 Nm)
     
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    Bingo!

    Nothing wrong with the LSx engines. But as standard they're fitted to cars that cost less the 100k. So they're aren't going to spend 2/3 the value of the car on a motor.

    The AMG is an exotic car, the SSV is not. You can make a 5.7 pull 500hp, its been done before. So a 6.0 or 6.2ltr will do it no worries. It's all money.
     
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    Jarp Surely You Jest

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    Them Germans build good gear...I'd go this way too if I had the cash.
     
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    dont forget merc and all that german jazz are pretty much built to drive 200-300 k's on the autobahn, i wouldnt be suprised if a merc v6 would pull away from a ss
     
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    I would LOL.

    Not all mercs are built to go that fast. The basic run of the mill Mercs are expensive commodores IMO. As far as performance goes anyway.
     
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    i guess, thats just my opinion.. ive been in germany on the autobahn in a vw passat wagon doing 250+ in a 4 cylinder turbo and the car ran like a commy doin 120-130
     
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    Your SV6 would do the same thing bud.

    My SS will sit on 140 and you wouldn't even notice.
     
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    mate all you need is to be geared right and you can sit on any speed comfortably, most new cars these days have enough power and torque, the difference is how long it takes you to get upto speed
     

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