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Toyota MR2 Engine Rebuild or Swap

Discussion in 'General' started by Deutscher, Apr 21, 2010.

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    your car is screaming V6 conversion!!
     
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    Nahhhh I can't. Why'd I want a V6? I only just got rid of my VS Calais.
     
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    Well I fudged up real good.

    $1500 for recon'd Gen2 3SGTE + recon'd gearbox + intercooler etc + spare gen2 3sgte block & head only...... dont think anything better will come up.

    Next cheapest

    Gen2 3SGTE - no gearbox, no intercooler - $1850... still need to find a gearbox and intercooler etc.
     
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    you may find the gearbox of the 3S-GE will fit the 3S-GTE, get your self on google and search MR-2 turbo conversion! im sure there will be heaps of stuff about it.
     
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    "na gearbox will fit up but i have heard they are not very strong"
    Steve from JapAuto
     
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    Just had a quick search and there seems to be some conflicting stuff on various forums about the N/A Vs Turbo box.

    Best bet would obviously be to get a turbo gearbox for piece of mind, but you may get away with using your N/A box for a while.
     
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    Does the engine need to come out to swap the gearboxes? or is it possible to do it without?
    I'd keep my standard gearbox for now... and swap it later but don't wan pay for the whole engine to come out again etc.
    Taking the engine out and putting it back in is where all the costs are for the mr2
     
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    you can change the gearbox with the engine in 110% definite on that as i have done it twice when changing clutches :)
    So if anyone tells you it is not possible tell them b.s!
     
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    Sweeet... my gf already trying to kill me for doing a engine swap. So the cheaper the better and I can change things along the way. She already doesn't understand why I need a 2seater car :D ... a 1seater would be prefered haha
     
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    Is there a Revision 4 3sgte? I asked if they had any engines to replace my 3S-GE in my 1990 Toyota MR2 SW20.
    They have a 3S-GE and then the rev4 3sgte.

    "gen 4 3sgte turbo engine complete with all electrics to run $3300 plus freight"

    3S-GTE usage in Toyotas (Wikipedia)
    Generation Year Model
    1 1986-1989 Celica ST165
    2 1990-1994 Celica ST185(-1993), MR2 SW20 (MR2 Turbo)
    3 1994-1999 Celica ST205, MR2 SW20(1995+)
    4 1997-2003, 2003-2007 Caldina ST215 (GT-T), ST246 (GT-Four)
     
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    yeah its just the same as the rev3, rev1 and 2 are the same and rev3+ are all the same.

    The MR-2 went from rev1 to rev5 very little changed from rev3-5

    What you waiting for..??!?!? get it bought before someone else does or you change your mind again lol

    make sure it comes with the turbo, intercooler, exhaust and all pipe work as well as all the electronics
     
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    Ah k. So there's no real point in getting a Rev4? If I can find a cheaper Rev3?
    It takes planning lol. Need to find out whats actually included (this is from over east again)... don't think intercooler comes with, but apparently only $300 or something. Just want to find out some information first. Also want to know how much work is involved in getting it in... cause the rev3+ are slightly different... the MAF or something. Gotta research it.
     
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    newer engine, less kms possibly..?

    dont dither around to long.. look what happened with the last engine you had lined up!!

    If you want to do it just buy it!
     
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    bandit10, I know I don't want to waste time. But I'd like to make sure I can fit the engine into my 90 MR2 without too much complications... I don't want to buy the engine and not be able to fit it to my car. Like I said, I didn't think the gen4 was made for MR2s.. so before I go buying engines, I want to make sure it'll fit into the mr2 and not cost me another 5000 to get the darn thing in.

    He quoted me a 3sge and then the gen4 3sgte. So I asked if he had a gearbox for the gen4 aswell.

    "Hi the quote is all about the engine not the gearbox,
    besides which the gearbox is 4wd and not suitable in anyway for your mr2."

    So now I'm questioning, because of the 4wd gearbox? because the 3sgte engine is shared in other cars will I have problems?
     
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    The Options I have are:

    Rev2 3SGTE = AUD$1850 including shipping
    3S-GE Beams + Gearbox = AUD$3050 including shipping
    Rev3 3SGTE = AUD$3550 including shipping

    Which would you go?
     
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    How many times we going round in circles...
    I would go for a rev3 turbo motor if i had the choice.. 2nd choice would be the beams and 3rd choice would be the rev2

    No matter which one of the 3 engines you choose you still have to do the conversion..

    The most simple of the 3 conversions will probably be the beams as you wont need to worry about turbos and intercoolers etc..

    If you could get a half cut you would have no problems at all as everything you will need is in the rear cut, turbo or beams wouldnt matter then.
     
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    Cool. I was thinking Rev3. But I've been hearing that Rev2's are more upgradable. I can't get a halfcut till end June/early July so that's out of the question. Just wanted to know what your thoughts were between the rev2 and rev3.

    Edit: We aren't going around in circles. I determined I'm not reconditioning my 3S-GE, I'm leaving my current gearbox in until it dies or I find a cheap LSD replacement in the future. I'm not getting a V6 conversion. I won't get the BEAMS because it's not turbo.

    To begin I was going to go with Rev2 because it was cheapest and was already there. But the difference between the Rev2 and Rev3 is $1500. So was trying to determine if the $1500 was better spent on a Rev3 or save and get a Rev2.
     
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    My latest dilemma, I still haven't got an engine!
    I'm thinking about a Gen3 3SGTE, no ECU, Wiring, Alternator, Starter, Intercooler for $2250 including shipment. Here are some pictures.
    How does this look for an engine? (I can't really tell if its in bad condition or not).
    The compression figures are 175 accross all 4 cylinders.
    There was no oil or water leaks and no abnormal noises.

    Or a gen3 3SGTE halfcut for $3800 + Shipping. Or wait until end July/early June for gen3 3sgte halfcut for $3300 inclusive shipping.

    What do ya's think about the engine in question?
     

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    No ecu wiring alternator starter intercooler.... forget it! will cost you a bomb so sorce them.. wait and get one of the half cuts.. will have everything you need in it..
     
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    Lol. I wouldn't care so much about the time if this was a project car. But it was my daily and don't have another car to get to work etc.

    I found all the items of ebay, prob costed about 500-600 for all those parts (apart from intercooler), found someone with old intercooler & fan, wanted $20 and $20 shipping.

    Spoke to mechanic, said it's not worth it cause I'd still need the hubs?, axles etc.
     

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