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Traction in the wet

brad VE SSV

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I have Bridgestone potenzas on my v8 and it barely spins in the wet.. But with traction Controll you wouldnt slip too much anyway, I can go full boot around a corner in the wet and it will not slide much or excessively spin..
Could not see how you'd loose controll
 

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Yep yep

If 'have' to go cheap, Rotella is ok, Federal 595s are ok at first but after a period of time become below average and noisy

Gemstone, Ling Lang and Triangles, avoid completely

595s are no cheaper than the FK452s or KU31s, i went out and bought my last set as 595s after alot of people saying how great they were. They are not something i would recommend after driving on FK452s. When i need more ill be going back for the 452s.

I noticed the 595s to be noisy after about 5000 on them.
 

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I haven't noticed a noise problem with my 595's but they are slippery in the wet, grip pretty well in the dry. I was going to go KU31 next but only one of my rear's was down (other was still more than 50% because it got replaced due to a screw) so I had to get another 595. I don't like how rounded the sidewall/shoulder of them looks compared to my front KU31's.
 

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Funny considering there usually made in the same factory as the big named tyre companies. Hm.

Being made in the same factory doesnt mean they use the same quality compounds.
 

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GET a 175 v6 vz and you wll have no problems loosing traction.
 

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I paid $240 a tyre for 452s, mainly because I didn't have the time to shop around - if you do, it's worth it. As said, you can pick them up cheap. I did get one quote for KU31s at $135 each in 245/45/18 - that is a bargain - they're a very good tyre. I had them before the 452s. They don't last that long thanks to the soft compound but they do grip well, wet or dry - and at that price, they're hard to go past. Having said that, the 452s are a step up again in terms of wet grip. I do find them significantly stickier in the wet than the OE bridgestones and, by the looks of things, they'll last longer. My OE tyres were done and dusted by 16-17,000km. KU31s made it to around 25,000km travelled - the 452s are sitting pretty on around 16,000 so far - well over 50% left at a glance, and they've probably had a harder life than the other sets so far.
 

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...My OE tyres were done and dusted by 16-17,000km. KU31s made it to around 25,000km travelled - the 452s are sitting pretty on around 16,000 so far - well over 50% left at a glance, and they've probably had a harder life than the other sets so far.
Just as a comparison my Federal 595s lasted 35,000km... Which was surprising considering how they were treated. They must be fairly hard in comparison to the one's you listed.
 

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Not sure - I've not had Federals but it sounds like it. Having said that, the 452s are holding up better than the KU31s I had but FEEL like a softer compound.

For the record, I wouldn't touch any other Falken tyre - have had a couple and they were all crap, which is why I was a little hesitant to try the 452s - but they really are excellent. All the other Falkens I've driven on have been very hard compounds, to the point of being treacherous. Similar story with the KU31s actually - they were the first kumho tyre I owned, but have since driven on a number of different ones, all of them have been rubbish - but the KU31s stick really nicely - they are a very soft compound - even the sidewall is a touch splashy, which is the only gripe I had about them - not much of a gripe though. Toyo is the same also - Proxes are fantastic - everything else is garbage. So you really can't buy with brand.
 

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just do what i did and put some 20 by 275's on the back with bridgestone potenzas.


hahahhahah yet i still loose traction without clutch kicking ;)
 
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